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I have collected a lot of misc. ammo over the years.  219 Zipper, 218 Bee,  25-20, 348, 33 Win., 44-40, 405 Win., etc.. Now because of my CA residence I am not allowed to sell it in in state, but have to find out of state buyers and ship it.  Shipping adds up fast.

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Reference the situation in Louisiana, which is a more gun friendly state, during Katrina (hurricane) and the deplorable and criminal actions of the police and national guard confiscating firearms from people on the highway evacuating and trying the same with people who stayed behind in their own homes.  

I don’t know where you heard such things, If it was from the news, it was a twisted narrative or outright false. The only guns confiscated were from people that weren’t supposed to have them, i.e. felons, known druggies, or outright criminals. 

My father went down to New Orleans after hurricane Rita to help with the Environmental cleanup. People forget south Louisiana was hit by both Katrina and Rita. They also do not know that New Orleans was only one of the many cities that felt the wrath of the hurricanes. They were down there for all the household chemical spills, industrial and commercial products, hazardous waste, explosives and practically anything else you can think of. He saw all kinds of things during his Year and Half down there for the clean up.  Louisiana is a open carry state, and he opened carried plenty while down there. And when he wasn’t open carrying he always kept a good sized pocket knife on him. He never one had to use his pistol, even while having plenty of residents pulling guns on him. Only time he used anything of the sort. He was headed back late one night from the bars downtown on bourbon, he had two homeless type guys following him. He crossed the street from them and stood underneath a streetlight and started cleaning his fingernails with his pocket knife. Neither one of them could then decide which one was going to ask my father for “A Hand Out”. 

About 95% of the stuff in the news, was almost always totally inaccurate. His company went down there right after Rita and turned on the radio. The news was going on and on about how there should helicopters sent down to rescue people. He said you could look up and it looked like a damn hornet nest, there was so many flying around. In fact they had several mid-air strikes and tons of close calls. 

After working there a while, his biggest pet peeve was listening to someone telling him, “It looks like the day after the storm”. The day after the storm you couldn’t drive down the dam street, any length of it, flat out period whatsoever. They spent months bulldozing all the debris out of the streets. They literally bought out every tire plug kit in a 2-hour driving radius. He had a tire they put 27 plugs in the first month they were there. 

I could go on and on with such examples. Point being a lot of the stories about Katrina, at least from the news organizations, were flat out lies. If you want the truth, talk to the locals. They know the real truth. The other thing a lot of people don’t understand is that there was a big difference between Katrina and Sandy. My family and friends went and helped out for both. Sandy was a cake walk compared to Katrina.  

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rogertherelic said
I have collected a lot of misc. ammo over the years.  219 Zipper, 218 Bee,  25-20, 348, 33 Win., 44-40, 405 Win., etc.. Now because of my CA residence I am not allowed to sell it in in state, but have to find out of state buyers and ship it.  Shipping adds up fast.

Roger  

That’s really sad, Roger. 

 

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Thanks Mike. 

Now that I think about it, the bright side pops out.  Just enjoy the ammo and shoot it. Then sell the boxes and brass.  Problem solved! 

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You can take it to Reno or Vegas and sell it or consign it to anyone with a FFL.  If there is a will there is a way.  I started collecting a lot of ammo several years ago when this law was being talked about so I really don’t need any soon.  The collectable stuff goes to a FFL first. 

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I went and got my C&R and the C.O.E. (the c.o.e being an extortion tax from CA) but these to items combined exempt me from the ammo shipment law.  Unfortunately alot of sellers wont bother selling to CA.  Even with the correct forms for the exemption………CA SUCKS!

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Maverick said

jban said
Reference the situation in Louisiana, which is a more gun friendly state, during Katrina (hurricane) and the deplorable and criminal actions of the police and national guard confiscating firearms from people on the highway evacuating and trying the same with people who stayed behind in their own homes.  

I don’t know where you heard such things, If it was from the news, it was a twisted narrative or outright false. The only guns confiscated were from people that weren’t supposed to have them, i.e. felons, known druggies, or outright criminals…….

 

About 95% of the stuff in the news, was almost always totally inaccurate…………..

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Well after having lived and worked there (about 12 years) many of those years for the State (Military Dept) I had a lot of work and personal friendships that extended for many years afterward. 

During the immediately post Katrina time I was able to keep in touch with a group of citizens who neither evacuated nor went to the Superdome and stayed for the duration.

nytimes story seizing guns

That article corresponds with what I was hearing during the time and the stories I heard plenty of the years afterward.

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The article does talk about seizing guns but not from the average person’s house.  Because of the all of the problems going on you weren’t allowed to carry unless you met certain criteria.   This was a crime prevention measure. 

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Unfortunately alot of sellers wont bother selling to CA.  

Because before shipping to CA, the seller is supposed to obtain a document from the CA state bureaucracy verifying that the CA FFL license is not some kind of counterfeit.  (Ever heard of that?  Pure BS, of course, intended merely to discourage sales to CA.)  I found this out when shipping a C&R pistol to a FFL in CA. 

First I started trying to fill out the on-line form to obtain this document, but gave up owing to its complexity, & shipped the gun without it.  Maybe the FFL is in some technical violation because I didn’t apply for the document, but the crazy laws of CA have no force outside that evil place.  In other words, the CA Gestoppo can’t touch me (or anybody else with residence in another state), unless I was insane enough to move there!

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Because before shipping to CA, the seller is supposed to obtain a document from the CA state bureaucracy verifying that the CA FFL license is not some kind of counterfeit.  (Ever heard of that?  Pure BS, of course, intended merely to discourage sales to CA.)  I found this out when shipping a C&R pistol to a FFL in CA. 

First I started trying to fill out the on-line form to obtain this document, but gave up owing to its complexity, & shipped the gun without it.  Maybe the FFL is in some technical violation because I didn’t apply for the document, but the crazy laws of CA have no force outside that evil place.  In other words, the CA Gestoppo can’t touch me (or anybody else with residence in another state), unless I was insane enough to move there!  

And the best part…….who at the USPS is gonna check all the mail coming into CA for ammo????  Its an asinine law that is pretty much unenforceable……

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clarence said

Because before shipping to CA, the seller is supposed to obtain a document from the CA state bureaucracy verifying that the CA FFL license is not some kind of counterfeit.  (Ever heard of that?  Pure BS, of course, intended merely to discourage sales to CA.)  I found this out when shipping a C&R pistol to a FFL in CA. 

First I started trying to fill out the on-line form to obtain this document, but gave up owing to its complexity, & shipped the gun without it.  Maybe the FFL is in some technical violation because I didn’t apply for the document, but the crazy laws of CA have no force outside that evil place.  In other words, the CA Gestoppo can’t touch me (or anybody else with residence in another state), unless I was insane enough to move there!  

You can go onto the Ca. website and fill out a simple form.  Once filled out you email, fax or snail mail it to Ca.  In a very short time Ca. sends you a letter with a  number.  The receiving FFL has to have this number before they can accept the gun from out of state.  What is happening is that Ca. makes sure both parties are current FFL dealers.

The hardest part is locating the form on the website.  It takes less than 1 minute to fill it out.  No trick questions but you have to have the receiving FFL’s CFLC # which you can get by making a phone call.  Most of the information requested is for the sending FFL except the receiving FFL’s CFLC #.

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