This is getting really bad! I was looking at 1890’s on armslist, on the second page the same rifle is offered for sale in two locations from 2 different sellers. One has a description and one does not. One has shipping and one does not. Pricing is $50 less on the bogus ad. I’ve only bought a couple rifles off armslist but both were from verified vendors. Be mighty careful on this site…….. These two ads are only 4 listings apart!!
This one says no shipping but a bit further down on the page shipping is listed at $30
This ad is the (maybe) real one.
Erin
Hell they both maybe bogus listings. Who only post three pictures of an engraved gun? And not hardly show the engraving.
Ain’t no telling what is a foot here!
Maverick
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Probably same seller; click on “other listings”. Maybe we haven’t found the “real” seller yet.
Mike
I have purchased guns from Arms list but I stay completely away from anything but a preferred seller. For example I seen a 43 Bee with several boxes of ammo and brass sell on Gun Broker and shortly after it was listed 3 times in a row all different locations and a week later listed again. If there is a gun I am interested in I will ask for a picture of the gun on top of a local paper showing the current date. You normally will not hear back.
I list guns on Gunbroker, and have had my photos and ad information stolen at least twice and posted elsewhere. The only reason I found out is that potential buyers noticed and contacted me. I see that some sellers have a water mark from GB on their pics. I don’t know how to do that, but it would be nice if it happened as part of posting your ad there. Some sites seem to attract these flaky, fraudulent people.
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There’s a lot of fraud going on over on Armslist. I saw a Winchester shotgun for sale there that had sold a year before on a different gun website. The seller on Armslist used the same photos and the same description word-for-word as the one used in the auction a year ago. The asking price on Armslist was a quarter of what the gun actually sold for a year ago. The seller on Armslist was not a preferred Armslist seller.
I was going over Gunbrokers list of sold 1890’s, the original ad for the rifle was posted there and the rifle was sold. I don’t know if 2 different scum bags posted fraud ads or 1 really stupid one posted it twice hoping to get better “coverage” on the same site 4 listings apart. I sent both of them messages calling out their blatant attempts at thievery along with some strongly worded accusations. No reply of course.
Erin
Both are not real. I commented on a similar occurrence a few months back. Notice how the location is repetitious. As in Baltimore, Baltimore. This fool does this ALL the time and has been doing so for a few years now. They are both fake adds.
Michael
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twobit said
This fool does this ALL the time and has been doing so for a few years now.
If he’s getting away with it, & actually collecting, then he’s a crook, but no fool. What I don’t understand is HOW he gets away with it, unless he’s being paid in cash or, more likely, a money order. Paypal would shut him down after the first complaint.
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