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Annie Oakley Special tonight on PBS at 9pm.
May 14, 2019
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For the benefit of those who said they couldn't understand why a gun owned by her was anything "special."  I've seen it before & it's outstanding.

May 14, 2019
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I saw that piece some time ago and it is, in part, what I based my opinion on.  It's an interesting biography and worth watching.  But the only reason any of her guns would be special is because other folks think so.  If I owned one, I'd happily sell it to them (or trade for something else if they had what I wanted).  RIP Little Sure Shot.

May 15, 2019
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But the only reason any of her guns would be special is because other folks think so.

True, but doesn't that apply to the guns or other property of ANY celebrity?  Buffalo Bill, Wyatt Earp, Teddy R.?   

May 15, 2019
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clarence said

Huck Riley said
But the only reason any of her guns would be special is because other folks think so.

True, but doesn't that apply to the guns or other property of ANY celebrity?  Buffalo Bill, Wyatt Earp, Teddy R.?     

Yes, like I said in the original thread: "I wouldn't even want a gun owned by Wild Bill Hickok if he never used it in a fight.  Teddy Roosevelt has a nice 86 but, well, ho hum as far as I'm concerned.  If I owned any of these guns, I'd sell them and buy a bunch of brown relics with no history simply because they *might* have history."

May 18, 2019
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Huck Riley;

   Just curious so I'm asking you these questions. If you had the opportunity to buy Curly Bill's Colt that he used to kill Town Marshall White in Tombstone or one of Wyatt Earp's Colts which he carried but may or may not have killed anyone with, which would you purchase if all were in the same price bracket? There are many firearms out there that were carried by ordinary folks, used in gunfights and or murders back in the day or even in modern times, is this what you like to collect? If you ever get the opportunity to check out John Ringo's Colt SAA you'll note that it's just a plain old revolver, yet he killed with it. Doc John Holliday's Colt was also just a plain 7 1/2 inch Colt, not a fancy gun as depicted in the movies. These guns killed numerous folks between them, but look just like thousands of others that may or may not have been used for killing. I also like old firearms, not "Closet Queens" that have been used for their intended porpoise. Years ago I owned and sold a Colt 1877 Lightning that was reportedly owned by none other than John Wesley Harden, this after he got out of prison. He however never to the best of my knowledge used it to terminate anyone. I've owned and still own a few that have killed their man and some that never have. I like them all.

Apache (ya ta hey)   SmileSmileCool

May 18, 2019
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Hi Apache.  My attraction is largely aesthetic, but also historical.  

As to the aesthetic, I find myself in a minority, in that I actually, honestly, like guns (and leather) that are dark; both metal and wood.  I like the OBFMCB rifles and the 7.5" plain Jane SAAs (although I really like the 1851 Colts too).  [As a slight digression, does anyone know why many long guns get dark while most handguns get silver?  I know some Winchesters get silver (I have one) but it seems most old Colts don't get the dark patina.  Holster wear?  I don't know.]

As to the history, I like the 1800s U.S west.  Guns served different purposes back then, as they do today.  But the "romance" (if you can call it that) has more to do with people shooting each other than it does people shooting animals, glass balls and what have you.  If a gun is part of that history, I'd prefer it over one that is not.  Also, there are some people I like more than others.  For instance, all other things being equal, I'd take Ringo's gun over Holiday's gun.  But that's just based on my personal, and probably a wrong, BS legendary understanding of the two men.  But I'm okay with being wrong.  None of this is as important as wives who love us, and look out for our health.  Smile

Balancing the two, I'd take the aesthetic over the historical.  In other words, if Ringo also used an 1875 Remington, I'd sell it and buy an old SAA that may or may not have ever been used.

Then there is money:  I'd take a barrel full of one over a single of another. Laugh 

May 20, 2019
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Huck;

    The famous killers, at least those described in the movies and western novels, such as Holiday, Earp, Ringo, Bonnie, and some others actually didn't kill all that many men. The real killers were men like Harden ( appox. 40 killed) Hardens brother in law, a hired assassin ( appox. 60 - 70 killed ) a relatively unknown gunfighter and hired assassin by the name of Kennedy. He reportedly was supposed to have killed over 100+. Very little information is known about him. Madden ( around 30 killed ) These men never, except for perhaps John Wesley Harden are ever depicted in Western novels or movies. The James Brothers, the Younger Brothers killed a good number of men between them, but no where near what the above guys did. These numbers exclude those killed in the Civil War by any of these men.

Apache ( ya ta hey )FrownFrownCool

May 22, 2019
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On the topic of famous outlaw guns.  Check out this one:

https://www.wardscollectibles.com/viewitem.php?item=4159

May 23, 2019
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I don't know, it seems somewhat plausible and legit.

I like the fact that he shoots all original guns when shooting SASS. My family and I do the same when shooting SASS.

I'm more interested in knowing how he shoots his original 66 in competition. And what his "special cartridges" are?

Looks like he may get a decent chunk of change for a pistol he shot the hell out of for 16 years.

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Maverick

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