…the gun in question is not the gentleman's carbine, but the rifle later in the post. The carbine is to late to letter.
…value. It could be that an original .50 Express barrel was used, but those aren’t exactly a dime a dozen.
The rechambering in this specific carbine was interesting had it still existed for two reasons that make this carbine unique:
1. It’s a way to have an antique .33 Winchester Model 1886…
…even though the .33 Winchester round did not come out until 1903, and, therefore, most are not pre 1899;
2. You would have a .33 Winchester carbine, which is extremely rare. I believe ONE was supposedly manufactured. And this carbine would not be that one, as the one in .33 Winchester would…
…have been as originally chambered and, for manufacturing totals, this carbine would have fallen under .50 Express production numbers.
While .50 Express is infinitesimally more desirable than .33 Winchester, it’s…
…unfortunate that this carbine doesn’t match the letter as in its latest incarnation.
The only other explanation is that the carbine was changed back to .50 Express at the factory, but the R & R was not noted due to clerical error or too late a date. But that falls under
…also have this 1886 50 EXP with a letter. It seems it went back to the factory for a smaller caliber, and the 50 Exp barrel subsequently put back on. I am posting pics
…single-shot or M1894 and was in the winner's circle in many matches.
I've enjoyed the .38-55 in not only the M1894's I've owned (rifles and carbines) but also in the Savage 1899's I've owned (rifles and carbines) and the Marlin M1893's I've owned (rifles and carbines). Oh, and there was
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I like everything about this Carbine, as do others here!
Es specially the caliber!
Thanks for posting!
Anthony
…& documented 13,755 guns (12,045 M/94s, 709 M/55s, and 1,001 M/64s).
Of the 12,045 M/94s, 5,808 are M/94 "Rifles" (the other 6,237 are Carbines).
Of the 5,808 Rifles, 505 of them have ½ Octagon barrels (or 8.7%)... not a statistical number that could reasonably be considered rare
…looks like an honest carbine. That doesn't preclude a stock swap when it was much newer. Probably worth a closer look.
Mike
…carbine. The M1886 carbine was standardly produced with a carbine buttstock and carbine buttplate. I have seen M1886's with special order rifle buttstocks (and they lettered). It's also not uncommon that buttstocks got swapped as a M1886 rifle buttstock will…
…readily fit on a M1886 carbine. If your carbine is original, I think it would be quite uncommon as I have never seen a rifle buttstock on a .50 Express carbine. As right as it might appear (e…
…or on the metal on the right inside of the tang. I'd also take the forearm off to see what markings are on the under side of the barrel.
All M1886's (carbine or rifles) in .50 caliber took some additional manufacturing steps (e.g. machining of some of the internals of action, as well as…
…the breech end of the barrel) for the big .50 caliber cartridges to cycle through the gun and feed into the chamber. If I had your carbine, the first thing I would do is check to insure .50-110 cartridges would feed and cycle through the action.
…have a 1886 Saddle Ring Carbine in 50 EXP. It is in a small group of rifles that records are not available for some reason. I believe this is an original 50 EXP from the factory
…rouged-up pig in a poke.
I would no more look to "invest" five or ten thousand dollars in a putatively high condition, 90 year-old Winchester 1886 all by myself [without getting numerous opinions from our true experts] than I would go shopping in Algiers for a piece of the True Cross,
…said
I've just done a quick search on Gunbroker to review what the results of closed auctions have been for Winchester 94AE 357 carbines in excellent condition. I saw a trapper version 16"barrel, new in the box, that sold for $1,000 even. Others ranged from about $900 to $1400,
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The B is a minor mechanical change as far as I have found. I don't have your carbine in the survey I'm doing on the 73. What is the caliber and is the barrel standard length?
Bob
Hi Bob. Thank you ! It's 44-40. The
…B is a minor mechanical change as far as I have found. I don't have your carbine in the survey I'm doing on the 73. What is the caliber and is the barrel standard length?
Bob
…Model 1886 in 45-70, manufactured in April 1888. This was found in a wall in an old house in North St Louis Missouri leaning against a sewer pipe. We had to
…just in jest. Just this week, we received our first ever request to include a pinch of dad's ashes in a crucible with the receiver of his favorite 1886 for case color hardening. I must admit that I hadn't considered that particular ingredient in the recipe before. Mark
Mark, If I have
…just in jest. Just this week, we received our first ever request to include a pinch of dad's ashes in a crucible with the receiver of his favorite 1886 for case color hardening. I must admit that I hadn't considered that particular ingredient in the recipe before. Mark
Considering the
…just in jest. Just this week, we received our first ever request to include a pinch of dad's ashes in a crucible with the receiver of his favorite 1886 for case color hardening. I must admit that I hadn't considered that particular ingredient in the recipe before. Mark
…gun, if I was looking for a pre-war Carbine would try to make a deal
… but I assume it's not original. It does have the 4-step 3C elevator. Otherwise the gun is pretty much like the GB rifle.
FWIW... M70 Carbines are not particularly "rare", as over 7000 of them were made. The 30 GOV'T'06 chambering would be the most common. What's "rare" is finding one
…the rifle is indeed an early production Model 1892. The barrel address on your rifle was only used on round barrel sporting rifles and saddle ring carbines from the beginning of production until about serial number 16000. Based on this we can determine that your gun was manufactured in 1892 or 1893.
…have an experienced 44 Carbine sight... doesn't have numbers on the staff... pm me & we can talk. Or, check the WACA magazine classified section for my ad &
…all this data.
You are welcome and thank you for participating in the survey!
Currently, I have 28,373 Model 1894(94) rifles & carbines documented in the survey. The serial number ranges that I am documenting in the survey are; 1 - 7999 and 354000 - 2600011.
Bert
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In case you don’t already have it in your survey, I recently picked up s/n: 833,707. It is carbine, chambered in .30 WCF, has a 20” round barrel and full length magazine tube, and a has smooth and plain walnut stock fitted with the carbine style
…configuration and location of the front band positively confirm that it cannot be an altered Flat band. Lastly, approximately 50% of the Flat band carbines have a Type 3 receiver frame and corresponding butt stock. It is not possible to install a "rifle" butt stock on a Type 3 receiver.
The next
…configuration and location of the front band positively confirm that it cannot be an altered Flat band. Lastly, approximately 50% of the Flat band carbines have a Type 3 receiver frame and corresponding butt stock. It is not possible to install a "rifle" butt stock on a Type 3 receiver.
The next
…how many buffing wheels someone wore out on this old carbine trying to get all the pitting out? I kinda like the boar scene on the stock but would never do that to a gun.
Mike
…with the above comments on the rear sight. First thing that comes to my mind is that an incorrect rear sight, never stopped me from buying a model 1886.
With that being said, I re read you're post, after reading what Steven stated above, and if there's a chance that you're rifle is a special
…H. said
I will add that the early Model 1886 rifles are also found with a "Sporting Leaf" rear sight that resembles a Carbine ladder sight but are longer in length.
Bert
Yes , exactly! It is also mentioned as standard for the 45-70 in contemporary catalogues
…H. said
I will add that the early Model 1886 rifles are also found with a "Sporting Leaf" rear sight that resembles a Carbine ladder sight but are longer in length.
Bert
And they are sometimes marked “1876” as they were manufactured originally for the Model 1876
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I bought this 1906 32-20 carbine recently. Solid, properly functioning gun. When I got it home I discovered a very small bulge in the barrel 4" from the muzzle. Now I can see it
