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WTB – Original Winchester decapping pins for Winchester reloading tools 44WCF and 45-75.

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WTB – Original Winchester decapping pins for Winchester reloading tools 44WCF and 45-75.  

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WTB – Original Winchester decapping pins for Winchester reloading tools 44WCF and 45-75.  

Not trying to be a smart “A”, so would a lot of people.  You can find them but these are always the first part to get lost.

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Chuck said

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WTB – Original Winchester decapping pins for Winchester reloading tools 44WCF and 45-75.  

Not trying to be a smart “A”, so would a lot of people.  You can find them but these are always the first part to get lost.  

 Just a shot in the dark. If I had read the 2015 posts brought to the surface by Gary Long’s recent post I would not have even posted a Looking to buy.

I have two sets (45-75  and  44WCF tools and molds). Both sets are missing the decappings pin. Although I do not intend to reload with these I thought it would be nice to complete the set. OH WELL. Confused

Thanks Gary Long for bring these posts to the surface in the General Disscussions and questions topic.

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I think I have what You are looking for? The little pin is broke off. This was with some old 45-75 brass and ammo i bought years ago. 

 

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Richard, can you post pictures so we can see which models you have?  Each caliber that you have probably has several styles of the tool.  Here are the 3 styles that I have. 

 

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Richard, can you post pictures so we can see which models you have?  Each caliber that you have probably has several styles of the tool.  Here are the 3 styles that I have. 

 

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Chuck – Thank you for the response. My 44 WCF reloading tool is exactly like yours. The 45 -75 is different than your picture. It has a patent date – Sept 14,1880. I am having trouble posting pictures so if you will PM me with your e-mail I will send pictures.  RR

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What would be the value of a compete original set of 44 W.C.F. reloading tools that include the decapping pin and bullet mold?

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What would be the value of a compete original set of 44 W.C.F. reloading tools that include the decapping pin and bullet mold?

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Roger that would depend upon which model you have and the condition of the tools.  A box would be nice.  I think I paid about $300 for my 44 WCF set that is in very good condition some years ago.  I don’t collect tools so I am not on top of prices.

Don’t hold me to the price.  It could have been less but it was so long ago.

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What would be the value of a compete original set of 44 W.C.F. reloading tools that include the decapping pin and bullet mold?

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Like Chuck said that depends of the model of the Tool. They made the 44 W.C.F. in the models 1874, 1875, and the 1882. All of which would have came in an original box with the tool, the mold, a charge cup, and instructions. They also, depending on model, may have a wad cutter, de-capper pin, and period advertising. So throwing all those things together to make a complete set, its gets tricky pretty fast.

A while back a fairly complete boxed set 1874 Tool, only missing the original charge cup, sold for $15,000.00 U.S. to a collector in Australia.  I think that maybe sky high but when two people want something bad enough. 

Fairly recently just the lid for a 1874 Tool box sold for over $5,000. Depending on condition a 1874 Tool all by itself goes for $1,500-3,000 range. I’ve seen then even go higher. 

The 1875 Tool all by itself depending on condition goes for the $150-300 range, or higher. A boxed 1875 Tool with the mold I’ve seen go in the $2,500-3,000 range, depending on condition. 

The 1st Model Mold all by itself for the 1874 & 1875 Tools, I’ve seen go for $1,500-2,000. I’ve actually never seen a 2nd Model Mold in 44W.C.F., but I’ve seen a couple in .45-75W.C.F. in the $2-2,500 range. 

The 1882 Tool is the most common Tool and produced for the longest period of time by Winchester. Depending on condition, I’ve bought Original Boxed Sets in $175-300, range with the highest being around $500 for a truly mint set with all the bells and whistles. 

Hope that helps.

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Unfortunately, I have never been one to buy N.I.B. items  I gravitate to used, but not abused items (more affordable for me)2.JPGImage Enlarger1.JPGImage Enlarger.  This is now coming back to bite me! I am a slow learner.

This is the 1882 set I found on the internet years ago.  Thought it made a nice display, with a story of the original 1972 find written by the finder on the back.

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This is now coming back to bite me! I am a slow learner.

This is the 1882 set I found on the internet years ago.  Thought it made a nice display, with a story of the original 1972 find written by the finder on the back.

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Well I don’t know how bad bitten you were. But just the decapper pin is a reproduction. The Tool & Mold are original in fairly minty shape.  As far as the 1972 date is concerned, I don’t know if it holds much water for any purpose. I do know that lathes were certainly available in 1972. I also would imagine more people in the 70s knew how to work a lathe than today.

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Thank you for your sharp eye Maverick.  I will make a note not to misrepresent the de-capping pin in the future.  The de-capping pin was the main reason I desired to have this set.  I had seen the reloading tools before, but this was the first time I had seen the tool with a de-capping pin.  Bummer!

My lack of knowledge concerning originality back then and even today has been a real detriment in my collecting.  My past mistakes continue to embarrass me.  I do have some great fakes though and wish I had the expertise to share them so others might save themselves future embarrassing situations.

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