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Want to sell. Winchester model 1892. Made in 1910. 90% original bluing. Great stock and forearm
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April 14, 2026 - 5:36 pm
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Wyoming Armory is who did the case coloring. I have never touched the bluing. I cleaned up the stock. That is all I ever did to this weapon.

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FWIW- Doug Turnbull has nothing to do with the current Turnbull restorations,,,, so while the people use that as a referance-in thinking that he is still hands on, he is not.He has nothing to do with it. I can not speak to what type of work they are putting out now, but felt it is a valid point to bring up, simply because he and his work have such a good reputation and following- and I think that is the work people are referring  when they say Turnbull Restoration. 

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Wyoming Armory is who did the case coloring. I have never touched the bluing. I cleaned up the stock. That is all I ever did to this weapon.
  

I don’t know exactly what you did to clean up the stock, the but the wood to metal fit isnoticeably not as good as it was when LS&B had it.  

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April 14, 2026 - 10:26 pm
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I did not affect the dimensions of the stock. It is exactly the same as I bought it.

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Bill Hanzel said
FWIW- Doug Turnbull has nothing to do with the current Turnbull restorations,,,, so while the people use that as a referance-in thinking that he is still hands on, he is not.He has nothing to do with it. I can not speak to what type of work they are putting out now, but felt it is a valid point to bring up, simply because he and his work have such a good reputation and following- and I think that is the work people are referring  when they say Turnbull Restoration. 
  

Isn’t the Turnbull family running the business now?  Not Doug.

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April 15, 2026 - 2:48 am
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Chuck, technically not anymore.

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I did not affect the dimensions of the stock. It is exactly the same as I bought it.
  

Yes, but just removing the stock set disturbed a 115 year old factory wood-to-metal fit that is very difficult to duplicate

“If you can’t convince them, confuse them”

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I did not affect the dimensions of the stock. It is exactly the same as I bought it.
  

Yes, but just removing the stock set disturbed a 115 year old factory wood-to-metal fit that is very difficult to duplicate
  

Polishing to a mirror finish and charcoal blueing caused the issue, Mark Douglas has some great videos on the cinnabar’s channel about their process.  I’d like to see the receiver in natural light.  I probably would have replaced the wood if I went that route.  Someone here I don’t remember right now had them do a 86 I think, that turned out fantastic.  

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I disagree. The stock is exactly where it always has been. It could not fit any better. Why are you nitpicking on this gun? Did you bid on it? Are you pissed that I made it the way I liked it? I have dozens of Winchesters. Many in pristine condition in almost all calibers and models. I like it the way it is and don’t care what you think. 

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April 15, 2026 - 3:39 am
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I never touched the bluing. It is exactly as I bought it.

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I read most of the nonsense posted here. It is my gun and I don’t need anyone’s approval or care what anyone thinks. I will do what ever I want to this gun and care less what anyone thinks nitpicker on this forum thinks. Most of you are way off base and don’t know what you’re talking about. Don’t get personal, as some of you have and you know who you are. I know, You have the moderator to protect you as he deleted and amended some of my comments. So much for the 1st Amendment. I got phone calls from 1000’s of miles away, congratulating me for putting some of you nitpickers in your place. None of you can change a hair on my head, and the only thing I am fearful of is my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Some of you could not tell shit from shinola. Oh sure Bert will edit this too. I have everything I need in my life. I worked until I was 77. If I want it. I can buy it. I owe no one anything and my credit score is 850. Some of you should get a life. Be positive, not so negative. It hurts this forum. Who wants to pay to be abused? Not me. I belong to many other gun organizations, none are as bad as this one.Bert, Put this in your pipe and smoke it!

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I read most of the nonsense posted here. It is my gun and I don’t need anyone’s approval or care what anyone thinks. I will do what ever I want to this gun and care less what anyone thinks nitpicker on this forum thinks. Most of you are way off base and don’t know what you’re talking about. Don’t get personal, as some of you have and you know who you are. I know, You have the moderator to protect you as he deleted and amended some of my comments. So much for the 1st Amendment. I got phone calls from 1000’s of miles away, congratulating me for putting some of you nitpickers in your place. None of you can change a hair on my head, and the only thing I am fearful of is my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Some of you could not tell shit from shinola. Oh sure Bert will edit this too. I have everything I need in my life. I worked until I was 77. If I want it. I can buy it. I owe no one anything and my credit score is 850. Some of you should get a life. Be positive, not so negative. It hurts this forum. Who wants to pay to be abused? Not me. I belong to many other gun organizations, none are as bad as this one.Bert, Put this in your pipe and smoke it!
  

Morning Commissioner, I’m sorry if we hurt your feelings. I don’t believe that was anyone’s intent anymore than it was your intent to deceive anyone on your GI listing. If you read all the comments you will see where I stated as much because I’ve read your past posts and well just felt from them you were a good guy! The same as I feel about most of the folks who post here. I’ve enjoyed reading the pros and cons debated here and in other posts about restoration. I don’t agree with them all but they don’t all agree with me and that is ok. It isn’t personal. We all know it’s your gun and know you can do whatever you want with it but at the same time that doesn’t mean everyone has to like it.  For example, I love Winchester Commemoratives (loved your matching set btw) and most on here don’t care for anything post 64 much less my fancy can’t shoot em keep in the box commemoratives! I’m not offended when the guys post or reply to me what they dislike about that market. I totally respect their right to be wrong! 😀I also think 95’s are ugly as sin and yet many on here love the hell out of those ugly monsters and that is ok too! I like reading all the different opinions on here as that is how I learn. Many on here like you, have a lot of experience under their belt and will post comments that make perfect sense to them and others but not to me because I lack their knowledge. Thus, I tend to post and ask why and can they explain in more detail so I can learn and I have found these guys have always been willing to do so. I posted a couple times in the thread and I assure you my intent wasn’t to nitpick but to learn. For example, the pics from LS&B show what looks like a lighter color stock to me as well as there is no Gap around the tang in the LS&B pics but there is a noticeable gap in your pics. Thus, I asked about it  as I’ve never taken a 94 apart and have no clue what causes that but knew some of these guys have taken apart thousands and could share their insights with me so I can learn. It doesn’t mean their answers are right because I have seen Bert reply many times that this is the best answer he can give WITHOUT actually getting his hands on it. His opinion for sure and some others on here were offered only in response to my questions. I think the intentions were to help me not to insult you so please accept my apologies and don’t hold it against the guys. Yes, the guys can sometimes be a bit curmudgeonly and heck one of them Cranky Yankee even openly admits it in his name! How can you not respect honesty like that! Finally, nothing anyone said would have deterred me as a collector from buying your rifle. I’m not a reseller and am looking for only 3 things. Does it look good, does it speak to me and can I get it at a fair price. I respect some on here have other considerations when buying or those ugly 95’s would never get purchased! Likewise, totally respect you defending your Winchester and I’m 100% confident someone will buy it and love it! I hope you accept my apology and consider sticking around! 

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I disagree. The stock is exactly where it always has been. It could not fit any better. Why are you nitpicking on this gun? Did you bid on it? Are you pissed that I made it the way I liked it? I have dozens of Winchesters. Many in pristine condition in almost all calibers and models. I like it the way it is and don’t care what you think. 
  

Commissioner, please, for your own benefit and peace of mind, go back and look at the very good photos of this gun posted by TwoBit when it was for sale earlier (pre refinish).  I’m no expert, but even I can see that the wood to metal fit from then is much better than in the photos you posted.  At this point it doesn’t really matter who modified the wood, or how it happened.

I don’t think anyone here wants to ‘argue’ with you. I know I certainly do not. 

This site exists at least in part to help educate all of us who are interested in learning about, buying, collecting and owning these old Winchesters.  By being here you have a great opportunity to benefit from that. 

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I read most of the nonsense posted here. It is my gun and I don’t need anyone’s approval or care what anyone thinks. I will do what ever I want to this gun and care less what anyone thinks nitpicker on this forum thinks. Most of you are way off base and don’t know what you’re talking about. Don’t get personal, as some of you have and you know who you are. I know, You have the moderator to protect you as he deleted and amended some of my comments. So much for the 1st Amendment. I got phone calls from 1000’s of miles away, congratulating me for putting some of you nitpickers in your place. None of you can change a hair on my head, and the only thing I am fearful of is my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Some of you could not tell shit from shinola. Oh sure Bert will edit this too. I have everything I need in my life. I worked until I was 77. If I want it. I can buy it. I owe no one anything and my credit score is 850. Some of you should get a life. Be positive, not so negative. It hurts this forum. Who wants to pay to be abused? Not me. I belong to many other gun organizations, none are as bad as this one.Bert, Put this in your pipe and smoke it!
  

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