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February 2, 2023 - 8:18 pm
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“Asking for a friend”Laugh.  A friend of mine contacts me every time he has an old Winchester that he is trying to sell. I have bought a couple from him. His latest is an 1873 Carbine, 2nd model, serial number 72,XXX. I am more of 86 guy and don’t have much knowledge of the 73’s. Here are my questions:

1. How many carbines did they make in the model 1873?

2. Caliber break down?

3. How many letter: “Fancy wood” (XXX) on the gun?

What else I know is that it is a Cal 44-40, has no cleaning rod, case coloring ~50% the rest of the gun about a 90%ER.

Would appreciate a ball park value (from$-$to) from some of you 73 guys. Anything else I should know. Is there a comprehensive survey of the 1873?

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Kirk,

I’m working on a survey of the 73 with close to 20,000 guns so far. These are estimates based on the assumption that the different features were produced consistently through out the 73 production. Using the survey to extrapolate what was made I come up with 126272 carbines, 5316 in 32 caliber, 7201 in 38 caliber,  113755 in 44 caliber. There is 4750 carbines with deluxe checkered wood or deluxe wood. There is no way to tell what the grade of the wood is from some pictures or descriptions so if the wood has “X” or better it was considered deluxe grade. If I was told or saw on the letter what the grade of wood was I recorded it and there is only 2 first model carbines that have XXX wood I found. What is the full serial number? As to a ball park price, what is its configuration? Reading between the lines it is a 2nd model in 44 with cased frame and the rest blue with XXX wood. I assume it letters.

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My wild guess is that if it is real it is going to be expen$$$ive!!

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Bob,

 

SRN is 72,833.

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Kirk,

 what is its configuration?

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What does a good restore job for these days?

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Unless it’s the barn find of the century, it’s a little too clean for a SRC, made in 1881.  No saddle ring wear, not a mark on the receiver or covers. I would check out restoration values.

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I would have to say it is re blued

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its was the screws that are blued not cased were the big giveaway along with the heavy sanding marks on the receiver.

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I would take a clean, original carbine with little finish, over this carbine.

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Wish to thank each of you that provided information. The end of the story is that the gun was sold for an amount that was exorbitant to someone that did not have the resources that you guys provide.

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Kirk

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