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Forgive me if this has been covered previously.
I have a 1903 manufactured Model 1890 in .22WRF
It has a folding Lyman rear sight with a while triangle.
Were these sights generally installed at the factory or added later by the owner?
Thanks as always.
Mike
Added later by the owner. The folding Lyman with the triangle was introduced much later than the date of manufacture of your rifle.
Regards,
WACA Life Member #6284 - Specializing in Pre-64 Winchester .22 Rimfire
JWA said
Added later by the owner. The folding Lyman with the triangle was introduced much later than the date of manufacture of your rifle.Regards,
Actually, James, Lyman began offering the #6 with the triangle in 1899. Doesn’t prove, of course, this particular sight is original to his gun–would assume it came with the standard M90 sight, unless it was ordered with a tang sight, which is the usual reason for replacing the factory sight.
Does anyone know:
Could the white triangle Lyman sight be ordered from the factory?
-Mike
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Does anyone know:
Could the white triangle Lyman sight be ordered from the factory?
-Mike
Yes, but unlikely unless gun was ordered with a tang sight. Does it have one?
Here’s some photos of one of my 1894’s that letter with the Lyman rear folding leaf sight.
Don
Excellent.
Thank you for that.
No tang sight. Seems sight was added later.
No worries for me. I was just curious what everyone thought.
Appreciate everyone’s input.
Mike
[email protected] said
No tang sight.
That’s easily corrected!
And if yours is out of the range for which letters are available, nobody can prove it ain’t “right.”
That’s really nice but I will keep the sights just as they are.
I purchased this rifle from a deceased friend’s estate. It is my first Winchester which my wife would say was a huge mistake. Got me started.
My 1890 is incredibly accurate with that white triangle. The rear leaf sight is pretty wide and seems a little more variable aiming when looking at the front sight through it.
But when I sight the very top of the front blade just at the top of that white triangle it is dead on precisely accurate.
And the .22WRF bullet seems to have a good bit of pop behind it for a .22
Basically the thing cycles and shoots as well as it did right out of the factory 117 years ago. I love shooting it.
Mike
clarence said
JWA said
Added later by the owner. The folding Lyman with the triangle was introduced much later than the date of manufacture of your rifle.Regards,
Actually, James, Lyman began offering the #6 with the triangle in 1899. Doesn’t prove, of course, this particular sight is original to his gun–would assume it came with the standard M90 sight, unless it was ordered with a tang sight, which is the usual reason for replacing the factory sight.
Well, dang it, I assumed he meant the Lyman #16 “folding Lyman rear sight with a white triangle” that was introduced in 1955. Of course you are right and the earlier #6 also fits that exact same generic description. That’s what I get for responding to a question with no photos. Wonder which Lyman sight he has?
Regards,
WACA Life Member #6284 - Specializing in Pre-64 Winchester .22 Rimfire
Do like Clarence said, buy a period Lyman tang sight. It does not bother a lot of people when sights get upgraded. In my opinion it is not a mistake as long as the gun has not been damaged. The #6 sight is very collectable. They do come in different heights.
Chuck said
Do like Clarence said, buy a period Lyman tang sight.
Too late for the one I posted, which was a BIN at a very fair price! Which one of you sneaky guys snagged that one?
[email protected] said
Excellent.Thank you for that.
No tang sight. Seems sight was added later.
No worries for me. I was just curious what everyone thought.
Appreciate everyone’s input.
Mike
Sometimes you can identify a previous installed sight by inspecting for shadow or wear marks from the former sight/elevator on the top barrel flat. If your rifle has any of these you should post some photos.
Don
So you guys have given me good stuff to think about. At some point I really need to order a Cody letter to resolve any question.
When I got the gun, the upper tang screw closest to the hammer was missing. Didn’t think much of it and I replaced it.
But perhaps that screw was missing because a tang site was present at some time.
I’m not sure the model sight. It says Lymans in very very small print. Don’t see a number but maybe can’t see with my old eyes.
Finally, how do I post pictures. Would love for you all to see what the sight looks like
Mike
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Finally, how do I post pictures. Would love for you all to see what the sight looks like
Mike
Mike,
Send me an email with your phone number, and I will walk you through the process of posting pictures.
Bert – [email protected]
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
[email protected] said
When I got the gun, the upper tang screw closest to the hammer was missing. Didn’t think much of it and I replaced it.
No reason EVER to remove that except to mount a tang sight. In fact, they’re usually hard to remove without damaging the slot if they’ve never been out before.
Here are some pics of my rear sight and one of the front sight.
There is a mark in the center of the barrel behind the rear sight that you can see. I wonder if perhaps that was left by a sight elevator.
Mike
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There is a mark in the center of the barrel behind the rear sight that you can see. I wonder if perhaps that was left by a sight elevator.
Mike
Undoubtedly. This folding sight is an auxiliary sight, & slot filler, used in conjunction with a tang sight–nobody would choose a sight with no elevation adjustment as their primary rear sight!
I believe that this Lyman sight was put on this barrel at the factory or when the gun was brand new. I do not see the marks that would be caused by an elevator. The leaves of the number 6 sight are fragile. If there is any binding DON’T force it. The leaf with only one mounting spot is the worst.
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