Avatar
Please consider registering
Guest
Search
Forum Scope




Match



Forum Options



Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters
Register Lost password?
sp_Feed sp_PrintTopic sp_TopicIcon
Lymans sight installation
sp_NewTopic Add Topic
Avatar
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 602
Member Since:
January 27, 1992
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
21
December 12, 2020 - 2:49 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost
sp_ReportPost

Am I missing something here?  The sights are all mentioned in the letter.  Isn’t the “Lyman Rear” sight the tang sight?  The folding sight and Lyman front are also referred to in the Letter.  Please clarify.  Thanks.  RDB

Avatar
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 84
Member Since:
September 6, 2020
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
22
December 12, 2020 - 3:06 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost
sp_ReportPost

I am going to order a letter. I will post what the letter says. 

Here is the pic showing the barrel mark. It is right in the middle of the top of the barrel behind the sight. 

1553CA6C-4ADD-4531-9C46-1B230BBCECFD.jpegImage Enlarger

Mike

Avatar
Kingston, WA
Admin
Forum Posts: 12397
Member Since:
April 15, 2005
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
23
December 12, 2020 - 3:52 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost
sp_ReportPost

rogertherelic said
Am I missing something here?  The sights are all mentioned in the letter.  Isn’t the “Lyman Rear” sight the tang sight?  The folding sight and Lyman front are also referred to in the Letter.  Please clarify.  Thanks.  RDB  

Roger,

The owner does not have a letter for his Model 1890 rifle (yet), so I think you did miss something.

Bert

WACA 6571L, Historian & Board of Director Member
High-walls-1-002-C-reduced2.jpg

Avatar
NY
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 3943
Member Since:
November 1, 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
24
December 12, 2020 - 4:21 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_EditHistory sp_QuotePost
sp_ReportPost

Michaelhking@msn.com said
I am going to order a letter. I will post what the letter says. 

Here is the pic showing the barrel mark. It is right in the middle of the top of the barrel behind the sight.  

I was thinking of the mark or “shadow” ordinarily left by an elevator, which is the length & width of the bottom of the elevator, but now I remember the M90 had a screw adjustment, so that does appear to be what your photo shows–where the screw bore down on the brl.  

Avatar
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 3329
Member Since:
March 31, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
25
December 12, 2020 - 11:34 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost
sp_ReportPost

clarence said

Michaelhking@msn.com said
I am going to order a letter. I will post what the letter says. 

Here is the pic showing the barrel mark. It is right in the middle of the top of the barrel behind the sight.  

I was thinking of the mark or “shadow” ordinarily left by an elevator, which is the length & width of the bottom of the elevator, but now I remember the M90 had a screw adjustment, so that does appear to be what your photo shows–where the screw bore down on the brl.    

If the mark is 1-1/2″ from the center of the dovetail Clarence is right on.

Avatar
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 84
Member Since:
September 6, 2020
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
26
December 13, 2020 - 3:21 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost
sp_ReportPost

The mark is exactly 1.5 inches from the center of the dovetail.  Still gonna get a letter.  Thanks to everyone.

 

Mike

Avatar
NY
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 3943
Member Since:
November 1, 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
27
December 13, 2020 - 5:07 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost
sp_ReportPost

Michaelhking@msn.com said
The mark is exactly 1.5 inches from the center of the dovetail.  Still gonna get a letter.

Well, let us know the result.  Remember that when any gun was equipped with the standard sights for that model, there will be no description of them in the ledger–only special order sights were noted in the ledger.  That is, if the record keeper didn’t neglect to write them down, which often happened! 

Avatar
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 84
Member Since:
September 6, 2020
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
28
March 27, 2021 - 1:35 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost
sp_ReportPost

Greetings again. 

I did finally receive a letter for this rifle.

Not a mention about the sights so seems standard sights from the factory. 

The Lyman rear sight was added later. I’m sure because it folds flat to accommodate a tang sight.

And I should have looked more closely at the upper tang previously. 

It is very clearly apparent where a tang sight had been present previously. 

Thanks everyone for your input. 

Mike 

Avatar
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 1667
Member Since:
December 31, 2012
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
29
March 27, 2021 - 4:33 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost
sp_ReportPost

Michaelhking@msn.com said
Greetings again. 
I did finally receive a letter for this rifle.

Not a mention about the sights so seems standard sights from the factory. 

The Lyman rear sight was added later. I’m sure because it folds flat to accommodate a tang sight.

And I should have looked more closely at the upper tang previously. 

It is very clearly apparent where a tang sight had been present previously. 

Thanks everyone for your input. 

Mike   

To restore the rifle to original. you may need a Winchester M30, and they are readily available on Ebay. 4 piece sight. One goes in the dovetail, the attaching screw, the sight itself, and a adjusting screw that made the mark on your bbl. I myself would restore it as parts are readily available. Big Larry

Avatar
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 84
Member Since:
September 6, 2020
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
30
March 27, 2021 - 11:10 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost
sp_ReportPost

I thank you for that. 

I had originally not wanted to change anything as it was my friend’s gun gin who passed away. 

but I am now thinking of a tang sight. 

don’t have any tang sight guns and I am curious. 

thanks to all 

Avatar
NY
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 3943
Member Since:
November 1, 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
31
March 27, 2021 - 11:56 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost
sp_ReportPost

Michaelhking@msn.com said
 I am now thinking of a tang sight. 

don’t have any tang sight guns and I am curious. 

You’re in luck!  Big Larry is having a fire sale on tang sights!

Avatar
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 1667
Member Since:
December 31, 2012
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
32
March 28, 2021 - 12:50 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost
sp_ReportPost

Michaelhking@msn.com said
I thank you for that. 

I had originally not wanted to change anything as it was my friend’s gun gin who passed away. 

but I am now thinking of a tang sight. 

don’t have any tang sight guns and I am curious. 

thanks to all   

I do have the exact tang sight for your rifle. It is a Lyman 1-A and is near mint cond. One of the mounting screws is a bit buggered, but will work. I will give you a special price. $125 + $10 USPS Priority Mail. Big Larry

Avatar
NY
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 3943
Member Since:
November 1, 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
33
March 28, 2021 - 2:09 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost
sp_ReportPost

Big Larry said

I do have the exact tang sight for your rifle. It is a Lyman 1-A and is near mint cond. One of the mounting screws is a bit buggered, but will work. I will give you a special price. $125 + $10 USPS Priority Mail. Big Larry  

CHEAP!

Avatar
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 84
Member Since:
September 6, 2020
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
34
March 28, 2021 - 2:42 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost
sp_ReportPost

Wow Sir. I appreciate that offer and I am very sorry to admit that I purchased a Lyman 1A from eBay just the other day for a lot more than $125. 

dumb me. 

I really appreciate you guys on here with the input and help. 

Big Larry, if I need a tang sight after all and if the one I have yet to receive is not acceptable I will let you know. 

And certainly I will give you more than $125 as a thanks for your help. 

Several on this forum have helped me and provided much info. 

I thank you all. 

Mike

Avatar
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 1667
Member Since:
December 31, 2012
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
35
March 28, 2021 - 3:32 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost
sp_ReportPost

Michaelhking@msn.com said
Wow Sir. I appreciate that offer and I am very sorry to admit that I purchased a Lyman 1A from eBay just the other day for a lot more than $125. 

dumb me. 

I really appreciate you guys on here with the input and help. 

Big Larry, if I need a tang sight after all and if the one I have yet to receive is not acceptable I will let you know. 
And certainly I will give you more than $125 as a thanks for your help. 

Several on this forum have helped me and provided much info. 

I thank you all. 

Mike  

The correct Lyman 1-A for your rifle, will have a tiny WS stamped underneath. It will fit the M1906, the M1890, and early M62. No others. Big Larry

Avatar
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 3329
Member Since:
March 31, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
36
March 28, 2021 - 5:36 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost
sp_ReportPost

Big Larry said

The correct Lyman 1-A for your rifle, will have a tiny WS stamped underneath. It will fit the M1906, the M1890, and early M62. No others. Big Larry  

Why won’t it fit others?  If it screws onto the gun and sits straight up it could be used on whatever.  It also has to be tall enough.  Are these too short?

Avatar
NY
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 3943
Member Since:
November 1, 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
37
March 28, 2021 - 6:39 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost
sp_ReportPost

Chuck said

Why won’t it fit others?  If it screws onto the gun and sits straight up it could be used on whatever.  It also has to be tall enough.  Are these too short?  

Larry goes strictly by the book, whereas if I can make it work, “factory” or not, that’s good enough for me.  

Being too tall for close range would probably be more likely than not tall enough, but using a higher front sight might compensate for that.

Avatar
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 3329
Member Since:
March 31, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
38
March 28, 2021 - 7:07 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost
sp_ReportPost

Being too tall is not a problem and I always leave the barrel sight on unless it is in the way.  Many times I align the tang site and barrel sight the same when shooting close.  Period correct matters to me not what Winchester did, except for sights that letter.

Avatar
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 84
Member Since:
September 6, 2020
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
39
March 28, 2021 - 10:37 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost
sp_ReportPost

The one that I ordered does have WS stamped on the bottom. Thank you for that advice 

Mike

Forum Timezone: UTC 0
Most Users Ever Online: 628
Currently Online: dane62
Guest(s) 1
Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)
Top Posters:
1873man: 5122
clarence: 3943
TXGunNut: 3713
Chuck: 3329
steve004: 2920
twobit: 2824
Maverick: 1969
JWA: 1725
Big Larry: 1667
Forum Stats:
Groups: 1
Forums: 16
Topics: 10032
Posts: 86531

 

Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 1363
Members: 11287
Moderators: 3
Admins: 3
Navigation