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Can anyone identify this sight?It’s very similar to a Lyman but doesn’t have the top set screw and the pointer is different. Is it possibly an early prototype?
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jeremy
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Ah, this must be the M1895 you mentioned with the short length of pull. As to the sight, I wish I could see the whole sight. A brighter closer photos would be helpful. The same for the buttplate area.
steve004 said
Ah, this must be the M1895 you mentioned with the short length of pull. As to the sight, I wish I could see the whole sight. A brighter closer photos would be helpful. The same for the buttplate area.
There’s 5 pictures there you just have to click on the arrow and scroll through, thanks for your time to look at this.
426crown said
Jeremy–Did you remove the sight and look for WR code on the back?
I didn’t remove it but I raised it all the way up which should reveal the code and there’s no writing or marks of any kind on front or back of it.
helidriver72 said
426crown said
Jeremy–Did you remove the sight and look for WR code on the back?
I didn’t remove it but I raised it all the way up which should reveal the code and there’s no writing or marks of any kind on front or back of it.
It may be a gunsmith made sight as it doesn’t have the pointer groove and doesn’t have the stop screw on top, the eye piece slot looks wider as if opened up to fit eye piece from a different model. It also doesn’t have the small pin at bottom. As being a prototype, the gun is later then the development of the site
I’m feeling a bit lost here. I wouldn’t expect a gunsmith made sight to have the Lyman stamping and markings?
Edit – ah, I see, CJ was showing an example of a correct sight. Because that sight sure looks correct to me!
So, I guess I was lost 
I don’t believe it is a prototype 21, as 1st model flat side 95s had factory 21 receiver sights. So I wouldn’t expect a 2nd Model 95 to have a prototype.
I wonder if it is a Lyman 38 Receiver sight?
I also wonder if it is the wrong coded sight for the model 95 and if it belongs on a Savage 99 or Remington or other manufacturer’s rifle. As to me, eye balling it the overall length seems a little to long.
But find it odd not having any markings, also the bottom relief cut for the adjustable screw is squared and not rounded, like I’m used to seeing.
I don’t think it is put together with parts from a Providence Tool company reproduction either.
So I’m not sure what to make of it either.
Do you have any measurements of it?
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The strangest aspect for me is that there are no Lyman markings on it. Have others seen examples of this style sight with no Lyman markings?
As has been pointed out, we don’t know for sure that this sight isn’t from or designed for a different rifle. I’m pretty sure it’s not for the Savage M1899. Here’s mine with the Lyman sight:
I’ve got a NIB Lyman #21, “J” ,code on back, indicating, Marlin model 93, all calibers, and the same proper Lyman markings on the exposed left side, facing outwards as yours is indicating also, Steve.
Tony
I have this Marlin 1893 that was shipped November 1893 with no rear sight dovetail and a Lyman 21 with no Lyman stamps. The sight was patented June 1895, so it could be a prepatent sight. The gun also had an odd barrel length of 27 inches.
cj57 said
I have this Marlin 1893 that was shipped November 1893 with no rear sight dovetail and a Lyman 21 with no Lyman stamps. The sight was patented June 1895, so it could be a prepatent sight. The gun also had an odd barrel length of 27 inches.
Very cool rifle. I’ve never seen a 27 inch barreled Marlin before. And I love the Lyman No. 21 on a Marlin. The no rear sight seat really adds to the charm. So…. we do see the Lyman marking is not mandatory for a sight to have been manufactured by Lyman.
What’s the chambering of this rifle?
Steve, is a 38-55. I don’t think the stamp is mandatory with all other aspects matching
Even the patent drawing shows the early sight with the rounded elevation slot ends.
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JWA said
Even the patent drawing shows the early sight with the rounded elevation slot ends.
Nice! Yes OP sight doesn’t have that sm button bottom left or set screw on top
On the left face of the OP sight, it has the two small holes forward of the visible hash marks, but not the small shiny brass light colored dots that the rest of the sights all have. Not sure what that’s all about?
Anthony
Anthony said
On the left face of the OP sight, it has the two small holes forward of the visible hash marks, but not the small shiny brass light colored dots that the rest of the sights all have. Not sure what that’s all about?
Anthony
Good eye Tony. It looks like the upper small hole (on the OP sight) matches up with the lower white dot on the example sight pictured in this thread.
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