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Winchester M1887 - four inches of rifling?
September 5, 2020
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Anyone seen this before?  Makes me think of those 1887’s made in .70-150.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/877974020

September 6, 2020
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steve004 said
Anyone seen this before?  Makes me think of those 1887’s made in .70-150.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/877974020  

Or one modified to shoot slugs.

September 7, 2020
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Fake WP proof mark on barrel?

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September 7, 2020
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Vince said
Fake WP proof mark on barrel?  

No, it is authentic. 

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September 8, 2020
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steve004 said
Anyone seen this before?  Makes me think of those 1887’s made in .70-150.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/877974020  

I would imagine if the rifling was factory, the gun would letter as such.

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September 8, 2020
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Maverick said

I would imagine if the rifling was factory, the gun would letter as such.

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Maverick  

I would surely think so.  I recall about 38 years ago, I was talking to a dealer who had an 1887 shotgun that he described as like this one.  I never did see it – but he described a many inch section of rifling like this one has.  He was bragging that he had bought it from another dealer who had, “missed” that it was a .70-150.  This was a, “very experienced dealer.”  Even though he had over 50 years experience in antique guns, the emphasis here should be on, “dealer.”  Anyway, I find it intriguing.  I always wished I had had the opportunity to examine the shotgun.  I would assume in easy way to determine if the chamber was a .70-150 would be to test it with a 2 and 5/8th inch shell.  I would assume the shell would not chamber in a .70-150.  In addition, even though I’ve never examined a .70-150, I seem to recall at least that the barrel was beefed up.  Anyone handled one?

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Maverick said

I would imagine if the rifling was factory, the gun would letter as such.

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Maverick  

I agree.  The thing is supposedly no commercial guns were made for this caliber.  Only experimental test guns.  I am not sure of the period so I can’t say if this serial number would be in the correct range?

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Folks, this is not in my lane, as we say in the Army.  But I do have a memory (such as it is) that may shed some light or help someone else with their memory and maybe zero in on details.  Back in the days of the “Shotgun News” and “Gun List”, I recall a listing of more than one 1887 reputedly chambered for the .70-150 cartridge.  Likely was the “Gun List” as the not organized “Shotgun News” would be such as I wouldn’t trip to the ad.  Anyway, probably about 1990 or so, the ad was for I think 3 guns in the aforementioned chambering.  Same fellow had them.  I have the mental impression he was from Georgia, but at least the southeast.  Bert can attest my inability to recall names, so don’t even try asking who it was.  My memory impression was it was a collector who was selling due to his advancing age.  I have had that memory for a lot of years, now, and it is subject to change as time rolls on.  Yet I am pretty sure more than one such chambered gun was offered for sale.  Offering for sale does not automatically mean legitimate nor all that goes into that, but seems to me likely he had some good reason for his statement of their caliber.  Were they ratchet rifled as well?  Full length rifled?  No idea, etc.  Does this help anyone else?

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