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February 4, 2022 - 7:39 pm
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Thanks to TR I was able to do this on Tuesday.  I will shoot my 66 next Tuesday.

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Are you shooting original ammo?

Or Reloads?

Sincerely,

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February 4, 2022 - 9:13 pm
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 Chuck,

 You are one of a few that can say, I shot a Henry! Congratulations!  T/R

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 I’m jealous.Smile

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Maverick said
Are you shooting original ammo?

Or Reloads?

Sincerely,

Maverick  

I’m using a modified case that uses a blank as the primer with black powder and an original bullet.  No modifications to the gun.

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Chuck,

How much and what kind of black powder did you use? When I shot them they was very little kick. The ones I bought and fired in my 66 with the starter cap primer had 15 gr of FF in them.

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Chuck,

How much and what kind of black powder did you use? When I shot them they was very little kick. The ones I bought and fired in my 66 with the starter cap primer had 15 gr of FF in them.

Bob  

Bob, I did not measure the FFg.  I just filled it up to the base of the bullet.  Same thing, no recoil.  Just a slight barrel rise.  I forgot to set up my chronograph correctly.  For something this slow I needed to increase the sensitivity and set it on pistol.  It was on but was set up for rifle and for shooting next to guns with a muzzle break on them.  I have already reloaded the cartridge but the next time I’ll weigh the powder.

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Are you using cartridges with a side mounted .22 starter cap?

How does the twin firing pin cope with hitting the rom on the opposite side?

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That’s good stuff Chuck!

 

Thanks for Sharing! Smile

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Are you using cartridges with a side mounted .22 starter cap?

How does the twin firing pin cope with hitting the rom on the opposite side?  

Here is what they look like and you can see the impression on the non primer side of the fired case and it didn’t seem to be much different than the primer side.

Bob

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Are you using cartridges with a side mounted .22 starter cap?

How does the twin firing pin cope with hitting the rom on the opposite side?  

I am using regular 22 blanks.  They look just like the pictures that 1873man, Bob shows.  The primer pocket has been brazed in then the new hole has been cut.  I’m using original Henry bullets I pulled from some old ammo that people have tried to shoot but only marked up the case.  RCC brass lists brand new ones for sale but I’ve tried for over a year to get some but no luck.

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Thank you very much.
I am starting to investigate how to make the same kind of cartridges using 9mm Flobert blanks in central position (actually the round ball cartridges with the ball removed) in the hope they could be shot as a repeater (the brass would not need to be indexed in front of the firing pin)
I was wondering where the firing pins actually hit.

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Gilles, you can order another firing pin and striker from Winchesterbob.  The pins on the striker have to be removed and a center firing pin installed.  I’m not sure how you would attach the pin to the old striker but it could be welded on the end of the firing pin. Shortened 44 S&W cases could then be used with regular primers. 

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Chuck,
Thank you, that could also be a solution. (and a safe one to shoot a 66 or Henry as a repeater)
My experiment is supposed to work without having to change anything to the gun (actually, I’m cpying a method that was used by Peter Schiffers to shoot a Henry as part of his series on American Civil War guns)

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Got to shoot the 1866 today.  I did not weigh the bullet or the powder but did set up the chronograph correctly this time.  A whopping 790 fps.

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You are having too much fun…………………..

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 Chuck,

 I like the fire out the end of the barrel. You made my day Chuck. T/R

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 Chuck,

 I like the fire out the end of the barrel. You made my day Chuck. T/R  

My friend shot a video and then cut this part to make the picture.  I love the flames.  You can’t see them in the video.  My friend is a retired machinist.  He is wanting me to modify a new firing pin and striker so I can shoot center fire and load up the magazine.

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It sure would be something to fill a Henry magazine and empty is rapid-fire Cool

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Shot the 66 yesterday.  This time I paid more attention to some of the details.  Bullet weight was 196 grains and used 15.8 grains of compressed FFFg for 841 fps.  I plan to work up the load to see if I can get a couple hundred more fps.

I believe 23 grains was used for a pistol load and up to 28 grains for a rifle with 25 grains about the standard.  The early New Haven rounds used a bullet of about 216 grains.  The later flat nose rounds ranged from 200 to 216 grains. 

I have no data what the original fps was??

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