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- Would like to know everything about this type of rifle (carbine). Points of interest years of mfg., serial number range, sights, calibers, how many mfg., and why this was made different from the normal run of 94’s.
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Bill,
The Model 94 “Transitional” Carbines were manufactured from approximately May 1932 through June 1937. The “transitional” had the new Proof Steel barrel, with the ramp style front sight and the 22-series rear sight, but it retained the older style butt stock and carbine butt plate. The rear sight dovetail slot remained close to the receiver frame ring. The serial number range is 1082900 – 1129750.
All five of the Model 1894 cartridges were still available, but the 30 WCF and 32 WS make up the vast majority of the production. I have surveyed at least one in each caliber in the specified serial range.
The “transitional” carbines were the “normal” run during the specified date and serial number range.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
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Interesting…and how did the carbines built after that date and serial # range differ from the transitional ones if I can ask. Thanks, Eagle
I have # 1100457 in my collection. Has all the parts as Bert mentioned. It also has a 22-E rear sight with a 1927 patent date. It is about a 99% carbine, and one of my favorites, These are fairly hard to find. Big Larry
I have a nice transition saddle ring carbine up for auction at James Julia’s October event, serial #1111002. As they were manufactured in the 1930’s (after 1928 when the sling ring or “saddle ring” was removed) carbines with a factory supplied saddle ring were a special order feature and only about a dozen or so are known to collectors.
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Eagle said
Interesting…and how did the carbines built after that date and serial # range differ from the transitional ones if I can ask. Thanks, Eagle
Different style butt stock and butt plate. The older carbine style butt plate was replaced with the serrated butt plate that was previously used on the Model 55 rifles, but the butt stock did not have the Whelen fluted comb.
Bert
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Thank you Bert, this now explains the way my 94 looks exactly the way you described this model. This type of rifle is surely a neat rifle with the look of the old features combined with the present.
Hi Bert, I have one model 94 that falls in the transitional range of numbers but is a regular carbine 1093537 with just a serrated steel butt. Is this possible? Thanks Bill.
Yes it is, but it was special ordered with the shotgun butt, and it should have a fluted comb. What is the caliber, and does it have a full length magazine?
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Yes this carbine has a 20″ barrel and a full length magazine tube, caliber Is 30wcf. The stock is none fluted with the serrated steel butt. Bill B.
Bill B said
Yes this carbine has a 20″ barrel and a full length magazine tube, caliber Is 30wcf. The stock is none fluted with the serrated steel butt. Bill B.
Bill,
In my experience & research, the stock should have the Whelen flutes on the comb. Serial number 1093537 was manufactured in August of 1934. The very few Model 94 Carbines with the serrated steel butt plates that I have found in the transitional range have fluted combs. More than likely, the butt stock has been swapped with a later production Carbine.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Hi Bert, My other Winchester 94 is from the pre war era #1105210 would you know the month and year it was made in ?
Thanks.
Bill B.
Bill,
April 1936. Which caliber ? Is it a standard Transitional ?
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Hi Bert, Yes this rifle is a standard transitional. 30 wcf carbine. That is about 90% with some family history.
Bill B said
Hi Bert, Yes this rifle is a standard transitional. 30 wcf carbine. That is about 90% with some family history.
Bill,
Thanks for the added information, and I have added it to my research survey.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Hi Bert,
I also have a 32 special just outside the transitional numbers by about 60,000 -1181700 this rifle was drill with 4 pretty screw hole which I filled with the correct screws they look very correct. This rifle has a lot of character great wood and very good factory original blue finish and is a great shooter for anyone who picks this up. What can I do about the screw holes?
Bill,
There is really nothing you can do about them that is not going to cost you a bundle of $$$, and a complete refinish of the receiver frame.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Thank you Bert, you have been very helpful with all you information. I was wondering if you know of a transitional carbine in 32 win.spl. for sale 85% or better.
Bill
Bill B said
Thank you Bert, you have been very helpful with all you information. I was wondering if you know of a transitional carbine in 32 win.spl. for sale 85% or better.Bill
No, I do not. I have surveyed (42) of them thus far though.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
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