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Sites on a 1873 30-20 cal. Rifle
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The nylon punches only work for sights that are already loose or easy to drift.  For the rest of the front sights I use a brass drift tool that has the business end of the tool flattened sort of like a large screwdriver tip.  Over the years the soft brass has shaped itself to fit the contour of the Winchester #21 sight.

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Well it was bent and laid over to the left slightly. I tried to remove it the right way with a poly punch but in hindsight you are right I should have used a brass punch as the poly punch slipped and that is when the site broke. It could have been possibly weakened from the bend.

Correct me if I am wrong but the site appears to be a Winchester series 21 site. Would this have been the correct front site for a for a Winchester 1873 3rd variation 32-20 caliber sporting rifle that was manufactured in 1903?

If so I am having a difficult time finding an authentic replacement. It may take a while but I have been out on EBay and other sites with no luck.

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Phil,

That would of been the correct sight. There was one on Ebay for $50 earlier this week but it sold quick.

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That was the correct #21 front sight for the period with the set screw.  Keep watching eBay – they come up regularly.

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you might be interested in reading this thread on the subject:  https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-rifles/sporting-front-sight/

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Thanks everyone for your input/advice. I learned a valuable or should I say an expensive lesson when it comes to removing stubborn sites.  I will keep an eye out for a replacement. I did find that above link interesting about the front site screw on a 1873.

Also what is the blade material made of, nickel?

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The sight insert was usually German Silver, although other options were available.

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Thanks Wincacher.

I really like the flat head brass punch you have. Is it home made or did you buy it somewhere. I looked for one just now however did not getting hits.

A flathead would be a perfect punch for these types of sites.

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You can start with a brass punch or any brass rod and mill it flat or file it flat. You don’t need to flatten it that far up the bar, a 1/2 to 3/4″ and you only need to do one side.

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Phil said
Thanks Wincacher.

I really like the flat head brass punch you have. Is it home made or did you buy it somewhere. I looked for one just now however did not getting hits.

A flathead would be a perfect punch for these types of sites.

Phil  

Got it at Track of The Wolf several years ago:  https://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/PartDetail.aspx/1041/1/TOOL-KEY-B

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Thanks Wincacher.

Nice site/company. I just bought one.

Phil

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Phil,

 I use a brass punch on sights. Just a reminder, the sights are removed tapping them to the right hand side of the gun.

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Good points. I have to keep a card in the top tray of my parts box to remind me. I think some today have no taper but that hasn’t always been the case.

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Phil,

There is one on Ebay now.

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Bob,

Unfortunately I did not see your post, missed that one.

I will have to keep looking.

Thanks,

Phil

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