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Opinions on Roosevelt connection on M1886 .45-90?
July 29, 2020
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Maverick said

Was just curious as what you define as his earlier material?

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Well I prob should’ve just said early contributions re: Colt. I don’t think he initially intended to dupe people. I feel it was the rock star image of gun collectors got him & no turning back. Happens to a lot of people.

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Wilson is active on a handgun forum in which I participate. His expertise there is both great and appreciated . I include myself in his audience. That said...
Significant breach of trust, particularly involving "fiduciary relationship", to which he admitted violation. So-called "double dealing", has destroyed his credibility.
While I do read with interest his opinions and shall continue, where there is any inference of acting as apparent expert to affect the value of property... to turn rapidly away.
In the case of the TR rifle of reference, hardly to accept such professed expertise offered by one who sold their integrity, defrauding clients in respect of the very same expertise 'MO'. Here, absolutely to "buy the gun rather than the story"!
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Reference the Wilson story as of 2006: http://www.forbes.com/free_forbes/2006/1225/112.html

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Wilson is active on a handgun forum in which I participate. His expertise there is both great and appreciated . I include myself in his audience. That said...
Significant breach of trust, particularly involving "fiduciary relationship", to which he admitted violation. So-called "double dealing", has destroyed his credibility.
While I do read with interest his opinions and shall continue, where there is any inference of acting as apparent expert to affect the value of property... to turn rapidly away.
In the case of the TR rifle of reference, hardly to accept such professed expertise offered by one who sold their integrity, defrauding clients in respect of the very same expertise 'MO'. Here, absolutely to "buy the gun rather than the story"!
Best & Stay Safe!
John
Reference the Wilson story as of 2006: http://www.forbes.com/free_forbes/2006/1225/112.html  

John,

It is not possible for R.L. Wilson to be active on any internet venue... he passed away last year (I believe it was in November).

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If he’s active on another forum he’s replying from the grave!

https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2016/12/22/in-memoriam-noted-firearms-author-rl-wilson/

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iskra said
Moderator, please feel free to delete this Post if in violation of any rule/policy.

Wilson is active on a handgun forum in which I participate. His expertise there is both great and appreciated . I include myself in his audience. That said...
Significant breach of trust, particularly involving "fiduciary relationship", to which he admitted violation. So-called "double dealing", has destroyed his credibility.
While I do read with interest his opinions and shall continue, where there is any inference of acting as apparent expert to affect the value of property... to turn rapidly away.
In the case of the TR rifle of reference, hardly to accept such professed expertise offered by one who sold their integrity, defrauding clients in respect of the very same expertise 'MO'. Here, absolutely to "buy the gun rather than the story"!
Best & Stay Safe!
John
Reference the Wilson story as of 2006: http://www.forbes.com/free_forbes/2006/1225/112.html  

https://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-xpm-2006-03-26-0603260031-story.html

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MY! How time does fly! 🙂 🙂 🙂
Didn't know he'd passed, but not particularly keeping up with him in any sense. Just the momentary 'knee Jerk' reaction in noting the name, memory 'blip' resulting.
He contributed at the Smith & Wesson Collector Forum, from which my recollection occurred. Also from Colt Forums. I believe I've seen one of his posts within the last ~6 months. Apparently on an archived Thread revived.
I hold no residual contempt for 'almost' any who've passed. Nor any for him.

Thanks for the update... Good to know! I do admire that 1886 which brought his name to the forefront here. Perhaps interesting to follow that piece to see what/if the auction brings! Thanks for the interesting Thread and expertise reflected here!

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There were other experts that would write a letter for a price.  Just beware of guns that need some letter to help it sell.

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There were other experts that would write a letter for a price.  Just beware of guns that need some letter to help it sell.  

Very true Chuck!

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RickC said

https://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-xpm-2006-03-26-0603260031-story.html  

I did not know that his EX / Father-n-law was a book binder. Kinda make sense that he has 50 some odd titles to his name. I would imagine his father-n-law's connections with the publishing world helped him out a bunch. Now a days it is a lot easier to publish a book, but 40+ years ago I don't think this was the same case. Several of his titles are practically the same boiler plate of information, and just re-branded.

There are several titles of his I thoroughly enjoy. The L.D. Nimschke book is a nice one, and there not much currently to compare with his Winchester Engraving book, even though now there are some guns in that volume I find questionable. But with what is know about him know, everything I see of his I always take a fine toothed comb to.

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P.S. I wonder who ended up with his scale replica Colt Blue Dome Gazebo?

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Maverick said

I did not know that his EX / Father-n-law was a book binder. Kinda make sense that he has 50 some odd titles to his name. I would imagine his father-n-law's connections with the publishing world helped him out a bunch.

I've known several hand bookbinders, & one of my many unfulfilled aspirations was to learn the trade myself (the apprenticeship is several yrs.)  They have NO connection to the "publishing world."

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Maverick said
I did not know that his EX / Father-n-law was a book binder. Kinda make sense that he has 50 some odd titles to his name. I would imagine his father-n-law's connections with the publishing world helped him out a bunch.

I've known several hand bookbinders, & one of my many unfulfilled aspirations was to learn the trade myself (the apprenticeship is several yrs.)  They have NO connection to the "publishing world."  

Then who's books are they binding, if not publishers?

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RickC said

Very true Chuck!  

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There were other experts that would write a letter for a price.  Just beware of guns that need some letter to help it sell.  

I also agree completely with Chuck.  In the case of this M1886, the rifle is nice enough.  I don't think the rifle needs help.  But the story sure needs help.  What makes me shake my head the most is how RIA titled the auction:

Roosevelt's African Safari Winchester Model 1886 Rifle

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Chuck said
There were other experts that would write a letter for a price.  Just beware of guns that need some letter to help it sell.  

I also agree completely with Chuck.  In the case of this M1886, the rifle is nice enough.  I don't think the rifle needs help.  But the story sure needs help.  What makes me shake my head the most is how RIA titled the auction:

Roosevelt's African Safari Winchester Model 1886 Rifle

  

RIA is very self serving. They use whatever reference gives them the oldest DOM knowing full well the dates are not correct.
I’ve seen more than a few there with stories & descriptions that are suspect or inflated.

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Maverick said

Then who's books are they binding, if not publishers?

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The books of their customers--the people bringing them books they want bound or re-bound.

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