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Gene Brown
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October 14, 2017 - 6:46 pm
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Bert

I have #1355315 Winchester 94. Can you give me the date of manufacture. Thank you for your work in researching all this information on the WInchesters.

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Gene,

Serial number 1352066 was the last serial number manufactured on December 29th, 1945. Your Carbine was undoubtedly serialized in January of 1946. Based on all of the other early post WW II production carbines that I have examined, I very much suspect yours will have a “42” marked barrel.

Does it have a serrated steel, or a checkered steel butt plate? Which caliber is it? Can you confirm the barrel date?

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It is a 30WCF. Here is what i found on the barrel 30WCF 45 and a checkered buttplate. I tried posting pictures but i havent figured out yet on this forum how to.

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Bert

It is a 30WCF. Here is what i found on the barrel 30WCF 45 and a checkered buttplate. I tried posting pictures but i havent figured out yet on this forum how to.  

Gene,

As a non-WACA member, you need to use a third party photo hosting service and post a link to the pictures.  You can send them directly to me at [email protected]

The “45” barrel date is very interesting, and I would very much appreciate a clear picture of it for my survey notes.

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Bert

I sent the picture of the barrel and buttplate to you.

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Gene,

Received.

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Bert, I know you have the number of my 1942 carbine, but I will post it here for others to see. # 1,327,444 PR Date 4-1-1942. 32 WS caliber, M55 buttplate, and D&T’d for tang sight. The carbine is in 98%+ condition. I have never taken it apart for a bbl. date. I shake too bad and the rifle is cherry.  Big Larry

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Bert,

      I have a 94 carbine you might what to add to your survey,  serial# 1,298,497   30 wcf.  D& t sharp comb. mdl.55 metal butt plate

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      I have a 94 carbine you might what to add to your survey,  serial# 1,298,497   30 wcf.  D& t sharp comb. mdl.55 metal butt plate  

Thanks.  Your M94 Carbine was manufacture in the Fall of 1941, just a few months before Pearl Harbor was attacked.

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My serial on my 1894 is 1333000 I always thought it was April of 1942 so I must be close by the way im new here I’m Tom.    Thanks and any input I would appreciate 

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My 1895 is s/n 15078 I think it’s spring of 1898 am I close and it also has an inspection mark on  left side of hammer K S M, I thought odd being a 24in sporting rifle.   Burt might be able to answer these questions 

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My serial on my 1894 is 1333000 I always thought it was April of 1942 so I must be close by the way im new here I’m Tom.    Thanks and any input I would appreciate   

You are correct, it is an April 1942 production Model 94.  Which caliber is it?  If it is a 30 WCF, does it have a Canadian Broad Arrow stamped on the left lower front side of the receiver frame?  The serial number is within the known range of the Model 94 Carbines sold to the Canadian government to equip the Pacific Coast Militia Rangers (PCMR) during WW II.

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My 1895 is s/n 15078 I think it’s spring of 1898 am I close and it also has an inspection mark on  left side of hammer K S M, I thought odd being a 24in sporting rifle.   Burt might be able to answer these questions   

It was serialized in the Fall of the year 1898. I have no idea why it has a KSM marked hammer.

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My 1895 is s/n 15078 I think it’s spring of 1898 am I close and it also has an inspection mark on  left side of hammer K S M, I thought odd being a 24in sporting rifle.   Burt might be able to answer these questions   

You have a scarce antique second model rifle.  The majority of 1895’s in the antique SN range were either first model “flatsides” or US muskets.  Kelly S Morse was the inspector for the US muskets, so KSM is stamped on several parts on the muskets.  It’s not unusual for KSM marked parts to be found on sporting rifles made during this time.  I have two rifles of this vintage with KSM stamped levers.

You don’t mention the caliber, but describe it as a 24″ sporting rifle.  The only calibers produced at the time your rifle was manufactured were the 30US and 303 British with a 28″ standard length barrel and the 38-72 and 40-72 with a 26″ standard length barrel.  All calibers could be ordered with a shorter than standard barrel.  There are only 285 24″ short rifles listed in the factory records.  Therefore, an antique second model short rifle would be a very scarce combination.  It would be worth while to get a factory letter from the Cody Firearms Museum to verify its configuration.  If it left the factory with a 24″ barrel, it will be noted on the letter.  If it doesn’t specify a barrel length, your barrel has likely been shortened.

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My 1895 30US  24in barrel serial #15278 under forarm on barrel a circled VP   Y       I   S N  marks.  then on reciver under where barrel threads in a.      P     Can anyone give me an exact date of manufacture.and info on the bottom of my barrel I mention above. I can’t seem to find out other then the circledVP what other marks on bottom of barrel mean other than employee codes.   Thanks.  Tom.  Indiana 

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I have an Model 94 .32 Special with serial #1264282.

 

On the hunt for the date of manufacture.. what a fun adventure this has become! Any experts out there care to chime in?

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Early 1941. Does it have a “W” stamped below the serial number on the flat section of the receiver bottom?

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I have a model 94 30 wcf serial no. 1,202,263 just wondering month year manufactured, or what you can tell me about it.

 

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Randy,

Your model 94 Carbine was manufactured in February, 1939.

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I have 3 Winchesters in this ser# range, each telling a different story; ser#1,299,686 is a rifle cal. .32 w.s., 24″ (mod. 64 bbl.), stamped MODEL 94, under bbl. stamped 39, 2/3 mag., 2 3/4″ ramp, hooded fr. site, serated butt plate and sling swivels, the forearm stock has the dimensions of a mod. 55 . Ser#1,343,643 is a rifle cal.30w.c.f. also with a 24″ (mod. 64.) bbl. stamped MODEL 64, under bbl. stamped 39, 2/3 mag. serated butt.plate, forearm stock is Mod. 94 dimensions, This gun is described in Bob Rennenberg s book as being factory assembled as such during the war years, 1939 to 1945 for some. I believe both these guns were factory assembled from various parts during that time as both guns appear to have never been tampered with. Though the bbls. are stamped as 1939, they were probably assembled later,1941-1942 and sold. Ser#1,333,861 is a 20″ carb. (P.C.M.R.) ,bbl. stamp 41. all 3 firearms are complete, original and in excellent cond. Obviously I’ve had lots of discussion on the originality of these ’94,s and knowing the Companies policy of using up parts I believe these guns are correct    P>S> none of these 3 guns are “w” stamped

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