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Miroku
September 29, 2019
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In some ways I think the Marlins are made better.  Had one once.

September 30, 2019
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They very well may be.  They just don't have the aura that a Winchester does.  Just like the Smith & Wesson New Model No 3.  In many ways, better than a Colt Single Action Army, but they just don't have the romance.

September 30, 2019
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They very well may be.  They just don't have the aura that a Winchester does.  Just like the Smith & Wesson New Model No 3.  In many ways, better than a Colt Single Action Army, but they just don't have the romance.  

You & Chuck are both right.  (No "forging lines" or "blue flaking" ever reported on Marlins!)  Logic does NOT rule in gun collecting.

September 30, 2019
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I like them all. Both the original New Haven guns and the Japan built Miroku's.

They (miroku's) are well built with decent fit and finish - but they are reproductions, not really continuations and upon close inspection it is easy to see where short-cuts in design have been made to reduce costs.

Such as the fore-arm band on both the 92 & 94 Saddle Ring Carbines is secured with what appears to be a rivet-type pin (same head on both sides) instead of the traditional screw.

Also the nose cap on the 94's has been re-designed and looks somewhat odd.

Of them all the 92's are my favorite and the Shot Show specials are really nice.

The originals are the ultimate to have, but I am thankful that Winchester has kept all these models available for the average shooter.

We all know that good condition originals are quite expensive these days, and that's if you can find a model in a caliber that you want.

D.

P.S. How many sales were lost to Chiappa and Pedersoli and Uberti ?

If supporting the Winchester Brand benefits American Workers and keeps the Company alive then that's where my money is going.

September 30, 2019
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clarence said

mrcvs said
They very well may be.  They just don't have the aura that a Winchester does.  Just like the Smith & Wesson New Model No 3.  In many ways, better than a Colt Single Action Army, but they just don't have the romance.  

You & Chuck are both right.  (No "forging lines" or "blue flaking" ever reported on Marlins!)  Logic does NOT rule in gun collecting.  

I think the actions are smoother too.

November 1, 2019
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Is there a website where one can get the date/serialization of the Miroku Winchesters?

November 2, 2019
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Andy Muenich said
Is there a website where one can get the date/serialization of the Miroku Winchesters?  

Not that I am aware of... why not call them and ask?

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November 2, 2019
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Like others here I have a few Marlins and have studied that company’s history to better understand Winchester. I have a few Colts because they employed some of the same talent as Winchester in the early days (and I have a habit of bidding in benefit auctions 😉 ) My fondness for Colt’s may also have something to do with a certain Colt duty gun I carried for over 20 years. I shoot mostly Browning Citori’s (made by Miroku) in the clay bird games because nobody (IMHO) offers more bang for the buck than Browning even in shotguns costing over three times as much. Shooters owning Perazzi’s, Kohlers and Krieghoffs admire my Citori’s and occasionally my Model 12’s.

But the Winchesters...That’s why I’m here.

 

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Like others here I have a few Marlins and have studied that company’s history to better understand Winchester. I have a few Colts because they employed some of the same talent as Winchester in the early days (and I have a habit of bidding in benefit auctions 😉 ) My fondness for Colt’s may also have something to do with a certain Colt duty gun I carried for over 20 years. I shoot mostly Browning Citori’s (made by Miroku) in the clay bird games because nobody (IMHO) offers more bang for the buck than Browning even in shotguns costing over three times as much. Shooters owning Perazzi’s, Kohlers and Krieghoffs admire my Citori’s and occasionally my Model 12’s.

But the Winchesters...That’s why I’m here.

 

Mike  

I shoot Beretta shotguns because they are lighter and have a thinner forend that fits my hand better.  I do not have any of the high dollar guns just the standard hunting/sporting guns. I do collect the Winchesters and have shot most of them I own.  Used to take an 1897 to the trap range.   Turned some heads with that one.  Or should I say noses.

November 3, 2019
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I really like the Beretta shotguns but the Brownings fit me better, Chuck. Tried on lots of O/U shotguns and the Citoris always seem to fit me best. Been thinking about a blue gun someday but.....

 

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It is important to use what fits you best.  I found out many years ago I like guns that weigh less.  An extra pound adds up when you are walking in rough terrain all day with all of the extra clothes.  I have a lot of shotguns of all types.  I usually use a semi auto when I shoot a 12 ga. and the Beretta's shoot real soft.  I also have a Browning auto 5 made in 1955 that was my Dad's first Browning.  This one you can't shoot steel though.

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