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It's been a long time since I've seen a M1892 in nicer condition
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steve004 said
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/891999441

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That is a very nice looking rifle for sure and sold for a very nice profit for the dealer compared to when it sold in October at auction.

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Here’s the listing from October but how do you tell what it hammered at then?

https://www.alderferauction.com/auctions/item/bw4232052

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February 23, 2021 - 4:59 pm
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Had that rifle been a 44-40, it would have gone to $10,000 or near that. I have seen several M1892’s go for $10,000. All were 44’s. Big Larry

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Here’s the listing from October but how do you tell what it hammered at then?

https://www.alderferauction.com/auctions/item/bw4232052  

The Alderfer auction descriptions mentioned the barrel, “….possibly indicating barrel has been cut off….”  That’s got to spook some bidders Surprised

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mrcvs said
Here’s the listing from October but how do you tell what it hammered at then?

https://www.alderferauction.com/auctions/item/bw4232052  

$1,500

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steve004 said

The Alderfer auction descriptions mentioned the barrel, “….possibly indicating barrel has been cut off….”  That’s got to spook some bidders Surprised  

No doubt the flawed description/incompetence of the auction house hurt the sale price of this rifle.  On the other hand, the $5,300 sale price on Gunbroker is way too high for a round barrel, half magazine 1892 in the least desirable caliber.  Just my opinion.

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steve004 said

The Alderfer auction descriptions mentioned the barrel, “….possibly indicating barrel has been cut off….”  That’s got to spook some bidders Surprised  

Looking at the GB photos the muzzle looks fine to me.  A darn nice rifle even with a round barrel and the “unwanted” 32 WCF chamber.

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deerhunter said

steve004 said

The Alderfer auction descriptions mentioned the barrel, “….possibly indicating barrel has been cut off….”  That’s got to spook some bidders Surprised  

No doubt the flawed description/incompetence of the auction house hurt the sale price of this rifle.  On the other hand, the $5,300 sale price on Gunbroker is way too high for a round barrel, half magazine 1892 in the least desirable caliber.  Just my opinion.

Don  

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I agree that the Alderfer description is poor at best.  But apparently Banderson63 and unknownchief don’t dislike the chamber of configuration.  Yo uwould have to look a L O N G time to find a better condition rifle.

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twobit said

deerhunter said

steve004 said

The Alderfer auction descriptions mentioned the barrel, “….possibly indicating barrel has been cut off….”  That’s got to spook some bidders Surprised  

No doubt the flawed description/incompetence of the auction house hurt the sale price of this rifle.  On the other hand, the $5,300 sale price on Gunbroker is way too high for a round barrel, half magazine 1892 in the least desirable caliber.  Just my opinion.

Don  

Don,

I agree that the Alderfer description is poor at best.  But apparently Banderson63 and unknownchief don’t dislike the chamber of configuration.  Yo uwould have to look a L O N G time to find a better condition rifle.

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I’m in agreement with Don… & Michael both. Hard call. As Don says Rd barrel 1/2 mag in 32 cal. Not my desired choice but as Michael says…finding one better ?

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Had that rifle been a 44-40, it would have gone to $10,000 or near that. I have seen several M1892’s go for $10,000. All were 44’s. Big Larry  

Everybody wants a 44-40 and I have seen so many guys pass on high condition 92’s because as they always put it “wrong caliber”. I remember the day I bought this little gem – I watched a couple of guys looking at it hard but passing – they did not want a 25-20. My lucky day as far as I am concerned.

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Everybody wants a 44-40 and I have seen so many guys pass on high condition 92’s because as they always put it “wrong caliber”. I remember the day I bought this little gem – I watched a couple of guys looking at it hard but passing – they did not want a 25-20. My lucky day as far as I am concerned.

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Nice rifle Burt. I would be very proud to own your 25-20. You’re lucky they passed on it!

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Burt Humphrey said

Everybody wants a 44-40 and I have seen so many guys pass on high condition 92’s because as they always put it “wrong caliber”. I remember the day I bought this little gem – I watched a couple of guys looking at it hard but passing – they did not want a 25-20. My lucky day as far as I am concerned.

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Burt,

SN 306558 was a 25-20 WCF rifle butt with checkered stock and pistol grip, OB full mag, TD rifle.  It was auctioned at Julia in Oct 2015, then at Amoskeag in Nov 2019, and then offered by Grove for $14,000 then lowered to $12,900.  It is a gorgeous rifle!!!!  Not that there is anything wrong with yours. 49059a37.jpgImage Enlarger

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Must admit I enjoy my “sub caliber” 1892’s. I can’t recall ever seeing a 25-20 as nice as Burt’s. I’m glad some folks are hung up on the 44WCF, more good rifles for the rest of us.

 

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Must admit I enjoy my “sub caliber” 1892’s. I can’t recall ever seeing a 25-20 as nice as Burt’s. I’m glad some folks are hung up on the 44WCF, more good rifles for the rest of us.

 

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Burt,

SN 306558 was a 25-20 WCF rifle butt with checkered stock and pistol grip, OB full mag, TD rifle.  It was auctioned at Julia in Oct 2015, then at Amoskeag in Nov 2019, and then offered by Grove for $14,000 then lowered to $12,900.  It is a gorgeous rifle!!!!  Not that there is anything wrong with yours. 49059a37.jpgImage Enlarger

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Interesting – thanks for the info – that would have been cool to have consecutive serial number 92’s – something I have never owned. I don’t buy guns anymore and so I do not pay much attention to what is for sale unless I am selling one and then I will look to see approximately what mine is worth. I actually like the configuration of that one better than mine. I have never been sure how much desirability there is in consecutive serial number guns. For some time now, Model 55, serial #4 has been for sale. Although it is lacking the condition I like, I have seriously considered making an offer on it because I have serial number 5.

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Interesting – thanks for the info – that would have been cool to have consecutive serial number 92’s – something I have never owned. I don’t buy guns anymore and so I do not pay much attention to what is for sale unless I am selling one and then I will look to see approximately what mine is worth. I actually like the configuration of that one better than mine. I have never been sure how much desirability there is in consecutive serial number guns. For some time now, Model 55, serial #4 has been for sale. Although it is lacking the condition I like, I have seriously considered making an offer on it because I have serial number 5.

Burt – that is very intriguing.  What configuration is M55 serial number 4?  I can very much understand the appeal of how a consecutive numbered pair of 55’s.  And such low numbers too.  By the way, your M55 is stunning Cool

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Burt,

That’s a beautiful model 1892. It wouldn’t bother me that it’s 25-20, find another as nice.  Your model 55 is outstanding as well, if it were me, I’d try for the consecutive serial number rifle to go with it.

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One of the favorite guns in My rack is a mod. ’92 in 25-20 ser#23518120210224_090523.jpgImage Enlarger20210224_090546.jpgImage Enlarger20210224_090601.jpgImage Enlarger

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Nice rifle Henry!!

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