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Buying old Winchester unsure what I’m getting
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February 6, 2024 - 10:39 am
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https://gunsmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/G0371.pdf

 

Some information from the time these conversions were done… from p18 on.

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Wow, Freebird. That is really a blast from the past!

My first thought was a wave of nostalgia when seeing all those gun writer’s names in the Table of Contents.  

Then I cringed when I read the article on the 1892 conversions.  Made me wonder how many really nice, future-collectible examples were grabbed from closets and rushed to gunsmiths to have that process accomplished.  Were there no collectors in the early 1970’s to warn folks about ‘destroying collector value’?

But then again, perhaps all those converted models make my 92’s more scarce and more valuable?

 

Thanks for posting.

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Nevada Paul said Were there no collectors in the early 1970’s to warn folks about ‘destroying collector value’?
  

Next to last paragraph advises against converting collector grade guns, recommends “well worn” guns for conversion.  I didn’t realize as much gunsmithing was commonly done for these conversions–welding up guide rails & firing pin hole, for ex; and all this work for $60-75???  No wonder, as article concludes, “hundreds” were done every yr. 

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February 6, 2024 - 3:18 pm
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Great article and great comments and advice… thanks to all so far…

I can sum up to conclude it has no collector value… maybe some neatness value. it a Frankenstein converted rifle by an unknown gunsmith that holds the value of a low tier operating rifle if it functions correctly.. I know it is offensive that a classic rifle has been converted but can’t change that… it’s still my option to complete the purchase we just have to clarify the rifle & it’s value… whats a fair offer? I read $500 on here & Andre @ winchester said nothing more than $700-$800… because the new rifles are better shooters than this would be..  

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Clint Retherford said
Great article and great comments and advice… thanks to all so far…

I can sum up to conclude it has no collector value… maybe some neatness value. it a Frankenstein converted rifle by an unknown gunsmith that holds the value of a low tier operating rifle if it functions correctly.. I know it is offensive that a classic rifle has been converted but can’t change that… it’s still my option to complete the purchase we just have to clarify the rifle & it’s value… whats a fair offer? I read $500 on here & Andre @ winchester said nothing more than $700-$800… because the new rifles are better shooters than this would be..  

  

Well, for my less-than-royalty-around-here opinion….there’s collector’s value ($500) and Gunbroker value (probably min. $1k)…the truth is somewhere in between. What was the asking price? I feel if they agree to $750 or less, you could be happy with it and shoot it, just full well know what it is….it can still be a likable gun for that corner piece of history!

(I’d see if they would agree in writing to a 30-day inspection/return window, then you can try to fire it and see how it goes…)

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Clint Retherford said
Great article and great comments and advice… thanks to all so far…

I can sum up to conclude it has no collector value… maybe some neatness value. it a Frankenstein converted rifle by an unknown gunsmith that holds the value of a low tier operating rifle if it functions correctly.. I know it is offensive that a classic rifle has been converted but can’t change that… it’s still my option to complete the purchase we just have to clarify the rifle & it’s value… whats a fair offer? I read $500 on here & Andre @ winchester said nothing more than $700-$800… because the new rifles are better shooters than this would be..  

Clint,

I am the person that stated $500, and I stand behind that maximum price recommendation.  The Model 92 conversion you are looking at is of very questionable quality.  It may or may not feed and shoot reliably.  The stock work on it is atrocious which leads me to believe that it was not a “professional” conversion.

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February 6, 2024 - 10:06 pm
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Personally, I would stay as far away from that gun as I could, at any price.  If you want to collect, buy the real thing and don’t waist your money.

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Another consideration would be when you decide to sell it sometime in the future. Not only would you be lucky to break even but you may have a hard time finding someone that would buy it. I always think about that, not saying I’ve always been right

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February 9, 2024 - 10:18 pm
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RUN AWAY!

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That gun was recently a topic of discussion somewhere else, believe there was also another gun with a similar ‘refinish’ that the same seller was offering for sale.

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