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Maverick said
I’m pretty sure this one is an authentic 92 in 218 BEE.
And it doesn’t look like they did anything to change the marking on the barrel.
Sincerely,
Maverick
Brady,
Do you know what the serial number is on that Carbine? I found two experimental Model 65 218 Bee Carbines listed in the Winchester Museum collection (which I assume are now in the valuts at the CFM). Serial number 1002520 collection item #1256, and serial number 1003119 collection item #1314. I very much suspect that the picture you posted is serial number 1002520, as it is listed as having a 22-H rear sight.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
rogertherelic said
Maverick, That is a fabulous carbine. I have never seen the 218 BEE in a carbine configuration. Especially with a plain pistol grip. Do you know the serial number? Roger B.
Bert H. said
Brady,
Do you know what the serial number is on that Carbine? I found two experimental Model 65 218 Bee Carbines listed in the Winchester Museum collection (which I assume are now in the valuts at the CFM). Serial number 1002520 collection item #1256, and serial number 1003119 collection item #1314. I very much suspect that the picture you posted is serial number 1002520, as it is listed as having a 22-H rear sight.
Bert
Roger & Bert,
I do not know the serial number of said rifle, but would imagine a call to Cody may answer that question. And Bert I suspect that you are correct.
It is a Dandy indeed! The striking thing I notice is how drastically different the barrel marking is from other “genuine 218 Bee” guns out there that I’ve seen. Why would Winchester take a Roll die from a Model 43 and modify it to say 92? Or re-stamp a barrel to add 92 onto it? When they could go to the drawer and pull the roll die that marked this barrel off shelf.
The photo is from the Cody Firearms Museum’s Twitter Feed. Found here: https://twitter.com/codyfirearms/status/1162425153138987008/photo/1
There are some other nice topics / guns they post from time to time there.
Sincerely,
Maverick
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Brady,
I suspect that Winchester used remarked Model 43 barrels because they were plentiful, and they were the correct length (24-inches). The 3-4 Model 92 218 Bee rifles were (I suspect) all late production late parts clean-up guns, assembled in 1950 or later (based on the barrel dates confirmed thus far). The Model 92/65 Carbine in question was manufactured in 1939 as an “experimental” piece, and most likely used the existing roll mark dies. By 1950, the original roll dies had most likely been scrapped.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
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