Avatar
Search
Forum Scope




Match



Forum Options



Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters
Lost password?
sp_Feed sp_PrintTopic sp_TopicIcon
Tips on Buying an old Winchester
sp_NewTopic Add Topic
Avatar
Eastern Iowa
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 272
Member Since:
February 22, 2021
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
41
September 3, 2023 - 12:44 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

That gun was probably run through a Russian arsenal at some time and that’s where the crown came from. That crown is identical to every M91 series Mosin Nagant I have ever seen.

 I wonder if it is an all matching gun?

Avatar
NY
Member
Restricted
Forum Posts: 7119
Member Since:
November 1, 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
42
September 3, 2023 - 1:14 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

Brooksy said
 I wonder if it is an all matching gun? 

If it was assembled according to the usual factory procedures, that would be hard to determine.  Contrary to Russian-made military rifles that have ser. nos. on almost every small part.  So I wonder if the Russian contract required similar numbering on these ’95s? 

Avatar
Great Basin
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 520
Member Since:
November 27, 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
43
September 3, 2023 - 2:24 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

I collect 1895’s and have a number of 1895 muskets, including several Russian contract muskets.  Every original Russian contract 1895 musket I’ve encountered, including the ones I currently own, have a crowned muzzle.  I believe they were all crowned.

The only serial number I’ve found is the one on the lower tang.  I don’t believe any of the other parts were serialized.  

Also, Russian muskets I’ve encountered typically have strong bores with frosting in the grooves.  The bore on the one in this thread is cleaner than is typical, but from what I can see in the pictures, I don’t see any evidence that it’s been relined.  However, it would take a careful personal inspection to say for sure.  Hope this helps.  Mark

Avatar
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 3
Member Since:
June 5, 2023
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
44
October 29, 2023 - 12:07 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_EditHistory sp_QuotePost

Screen-Shot-2023-10-28-at-8.09.13-PM.pngImage EnlargerIMG_E4832.jpgImage EnlargerAsking for some advice, I have a long time friend over 40 years, licensed FFL gun dealer resides some 2,000 plus miles away now,

I have bought from him a few times prior so what he says describing and his word is spot on!

With that said he has an Model 1892 Winchester 32-20 octagon barrel made in 1893. The rifle is in excellent original shape, not modified with some minor slight handling marks, the bore is in great condition no pitting. He sent me these shots said he paid $1800 about 8-9 years ago and would sell it to me for the same.Should I grab this gem? Opinions?

Caught my interest being a newbee hooked on Winchesters, already own an all original mint 1955 Winchester model 94 that was owned by the Santa Barbara Sheriff Office in mint condition, was a wall hanger most its life in the Chief’s office for decades. Came with all docs paperwork.

Any advice? Thanks!

Avatar
Northern edge of the D/FW Metromess
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 6193
Member Since:
November 7, 2015
sp_UserOnlineSmall Online
45
October 29, 2023 - 8:37 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_EditHistory sp_QuotePost

Richard-

Would need more & better pics to confirm but he likely paid a bit too much 8-9 years ago, we are all guilty of that when we like a gun. The front sight looks a bit odd and I’m a bit suspicious of the wood to metal fit on the upper tang. Value may have caught up with your friend’s purchase price. 

 

Mike

Life Member TSRA, Endowment Member NRA
BBHC Member, TGCA Member
Smokeless powder is a passing fad! -Steve Garbe
I hate rude behavior in a man. I won't tolerate it. -Woodrow F. Call, Lonesome Dove
Some of my favorite recipes start out with a handful of depleted counterbalance devices.-TXGunNut
Presbyopia be damned, I'm going to shoot this thing! -TXGunNut
Avatar
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 1341
Member Since:
December 21, 2006
sp_UserOnlineSmall Online
46
October 31, 2023 - 1:37 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

I haven’t held on to the gun , but it looks more like $800.00 $900.00 to Me. I see a brown gun with a possible stock change or refinish, may be the lighting though.

W.A.C.A. life member, Marlin Collectors Assn. charter and life member, C,S.S.A. member and general gun nut.

Avatar
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 3
Member Since:
June 5, 2023
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
47
November 1, 2023 - 1:15 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

Thank you guys I may stay clear of this one

Forum Timezone: UTC 0
Most Users Ever Online: 4623
Currently Online: Bert H., wally, Henry Mero, TXGunNut, TR, Green River Gus, SureShot
Guest(s) 193
Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)
Top Posters:
clarence: 7119
TXGunNut: 6193
Chuck: 5609
steve004: 5039
1873man: 4660
Big Larry: 2508
twobit: 2478
mrcvs: 2131
Maverick: 1937
Forum Stats:
Groups: 1
Forums: 18
Topics: 14435
Posts: 128459

 

Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 2021
Members: 9790
Moderators: 4
Admins: 3
Navigation