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I have a Model 64 in 32 Win. Special manufactured during WWII. At the end of seven digit serial number is an "X". It appears to have come from the factory as such. Does any one know the significance of the "X" ?
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Yes, the "X" denotes that it is a duplicate serial number. Thus far, I have surveyed (16) of them in the Model 94/64 sequence, with the earliest number being 1416238X. I would very much like to add the serial number on your Model 64 to my research survey list (and to my Model 64 survey).
Bert
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waterman said
Why would they have duplicate numbers?
It was the result of a mechanical malfunction with the automatic indexing part of the serial stamping machinery.
There are instances where that are at least three guns with the same serial number. A few years ago I found serial number 2138903XX, which tells us that it was the third Model 94 with that serial number stamped on it.
Bert
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Another one Bert. This one is a 94 32WS.
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Rapid taper, standard taper, extra heavy. All 45 caliber.
This same type of mark was common on Cameras that had to have the part with the serial number replaced. They would stamp the original serial number on the part then add an X to denote a replaced part.
I doubt that is what happened at Winchester since if a receiver went bad during the assembly likely they would just toss it. And if a receiver came in for repair that needed replacement I would assume they would have just replaced the gun.
Not all that common in the model 94 but in earlier models with duplicate serial numbers could be ordered on special order by very particular or preferred customer. Such instances are obviously rare.
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3855 said
Another one Bert. This one is a 94 32WS.
Mark,
Thanks for posting the picture… I have serial number 1440355X in my survey, also a 32 WS. I have to wonder how many more duplicates exist between the two.
Bert
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1372645X is the serial number of a 64 “Deer Rifle” I have in deluxe configuration if anybody needs that for any survey
Hello Tim,
What caliber is it?
Thanks, and I will add it to my research survey! Model 64 serial number 1372498X was another with a duplicate serial number.
As of today, I now have (26) known duplicate serial numbers for the Model 64/94, with 1372498X being the earliest found thus far.
Bert
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I recently bought a model 64 with a serial of 1055602 it is not a duplicate, but do you know what # they started with?
I know 1933 #s ended in the 108xxxx range
The serial number on your Model 64 is just a bit too early for the expected range, but is entirely possible.
The last serial number in 1932 was 1088141, and 1933 ended with serial number 1092328. In my ongoing research survey for the Model 64, the earliest serial number I have found is a 1039453. It, and your Model 64 are rare instances where Winchester used a slightly older (unused) Model 94 receiver frame to assemble an early Model 64. Which caliber is your Model 64, and which variation is it? Can you send me pictures of it?
Bert – [email protected]
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Rcount1968 said
Sure,
You have mail. Thanks Robert
Robert,
Please send it again… I had a typo in my email address. It should have been [email protected]
Thanks,
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
I have a Winchester that is has model 64 on the barrel and model 1894 on the receiver tang. It has the serial number 301695. It has a straight stock. do you know any information on this Winchester.
It appears that you have a Model 1894 (manufactured in March 1906) that somebody rebarreled sometime after March 1933, sometimes referred to as a “Frankenchester”.
If you are curious, you can remove the magazine tube and forend stock and check the 2-digit year number stamped on the bottom of the barrel. That will identify the earliest possible year that the Model 64 barrel was installed.
Bert
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