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What would be a reason for rebarreling a Model 1894 with a Model 64 barrel? Is this common? And what does it do for the rifles value? Thanks for sharing any knowledge on this with me.

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Are you certain the Model of the Rifle isn’t a Model 64?

There would be no reason for the Winchester Factory to do such a thing.

Bubba gunsmith would do it because it was the only barrel he could get a hold of. Ruins the collector value in my opinion and would have “Shooter” value or valued as for parts, etc.

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There’s a 64 barrel on a 94 rifle said to have left the factory that way in 1943 and has the double proof marks on receiver and barrel. It’s currently owned by one of our forum members here. Apparently if a person wanted a straight grip butt stock instead of pistol grip and a model 64 barrell(24”), Winchester accommodated. It’s in the Renneberg 2nd edition pg 236 in the Fun facts section.

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I had one once.  The back end was a grey rat receiver with an ugly worn buttstock – pull shortened to a about 12 inch with a thin ugly pad.  The front end was a pristine, complete M64 (barrel, tube and forend) and it was in 25-35!  Explain this to me!  I bought it was a shooter but eventually traded it off as it was such a mismatch.  I have the extremely strong suspicion that that front end is no longer on that back end.

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I have owned 2 of these guns built by the factory , apparently they were  parts make up guns. I had the one in Bob’s book ser#1,343,643, and the other was ser#1,299,636, one had the barrell stamped mod64 the other stamped mod 94. Both guns are still in Ontario in a fine ’94 collection. Would You provide a few pictures and the ser#, just curious if it’s in the same ser# range and done at the factory.

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Most (nearly all) of the Model 94s found with a Model 64 barrel were aftermarket alterations.  I have encountered at least several dozen of them in the past few decades. Most have the (P) proof mark indicating a mail order barrel. While Winchester may have installed a small number of Model 64 barrels on special request, there is no way today to positively prove that it was factory work.  The safe assumption is that the barrel is not original to the rifle.

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I agree with Bert’s statement and good advice if considering purchasing. The current owner advised seeing his rifle and Ser # specifically documented in print, leaned him toward feeling this was one of those special request. 

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Bert H. said
Most (nearly all) of the Model 94s found with a Model 64 barrel were aftermarket alterations.  I have encountered at least several dozen of them in the past few decades. Most have the (P) proof mark indicating a mail order barrel. While Winchester may have installed a small number of Model 64 barrels on special request, there is no way today to positively prove that it was factory work.  The safe assumption is that the barrel is not original to the rifle.

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Thanks Bert and everyone else. No that i think about, it could have been a bubba gun. I’ll see if i can find the gun again online and post some pictures.

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IMG_4294.jpegImage EnlargerIMG_4291.jpegImage EnlargerIMG_4293.jpegImage EnlargerOkay after a better look, the barrel had to be replaced because the barrel doesn’t match the receiver. The gun also has a terrible coating of something shiny on the wood. I think I even saw drips in whatever they used Frown

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Henry Mero said
I have owned 2 of these guns built by the factory , apparently they were  parts make up guns. I had the one in Bob’s book ser#1,343,643, and the other was ser#1,299,636, one had the barrell stamped mod64 the other stamped mod 94. Both guns are still in Ontario in a fine ’94 collection. Would You provide a few pictures and the ser#, just curious if it’s in the same ser# range and done at the factory.

  

I posted some pictures below. Serial number is 95483. WACA info says it’s a 1894 mfg in 1900. There’s no way that Model 64 barrel is from 1900.

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Ive seen too many 64 barrels in model 94s to count.  How would you ever be certain any of them was a factory job?

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