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I’m supposed to go look at this sorry for the crappy pics they’re the best I’ve recieved. It appears to be all original not messed with. I know its rough But it’s a 32-20 and I dont have one. 230000ish serial number that’s as close as I can get. Any ideas on price, I’ve overpaid a couple of times in the past.

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Patrick said

I’ve overpaid a couple of times in the past.  

Only a couple?

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Sarcasm, but I’m trying to get better. Most of the time it’s right here right now sort of deal

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Patrick,

I see a partial serial number of 264. It appears all original, but I’m no 1892 expert. Given the condition, and buggered screws, I wouldn’t pay more than $1000 for it.

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tionesta1 said
Patrick,

I see a partial serial number of 264. It appears all original, but I’m no 1892 expert. Given the condition, and buggered screws, I wouldn’t pay more than $1000 for it.

Al  

I’m no expert, either, but I think a grand, or even close to a grand, is WAY too much!  That thing is rough!  And nobody is paying a premium for .32s.

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I know the 32s are low man on the totem pole. But for some reason I never stumble upon them locally.

And about a year ago I decided I wanted a 94 in a 32 ws. Same reason, I dont have one. Havent seen one since.

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Would suggest you keep looking and not settle for just anything.  Im not that picky about some things but if I were to lay money down for that gun it wouldnt be more than the sum of its parts.  At best $650, maybe a little more if its got a pristine bore.  There are far cleaner guns you can find out there in the same caliber with good wood in the $1000-1300 range.  Look for something thats not pitted, has decent blue, not abused, and clean wood.  Keep in mind too, a big part of any value added to these small caliber guns is the quality of the bore.  The 32-20 is a fun cartridge to shoot and can kill most critters here in TX provided your a good shot.

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Sorry, but I would not even consider buying that rifle in that condition for that price Patrick. Guns in that condition are soft and will NOT get better I’m afraid. Just MO. Peter 

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Eagle said
Guns in that condition are soft and will NOT get better I’m afraid.

Best thing to do with beaters of this sort, if you can afford it, & if it can be bought for a fair price, is send it to one of the top-quality restorers such as Doug Turnbull.  (There are actually several others doing work of the same quality, but they don’t advertise & you have to hunt them down.)  Although, personally, I’d never buy a restoration, there is definitely a good market for them among folks who feel otherwise, & I think work of Turnbull’s quality will increase in value in the future; if fact, there are those even now collecting his work, especially if they can buy one of his restorations without having to wait the usual 2 or 3 yrs to have it down.

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Respectfully, I totally disagree with that…

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Well the restored market will grow. It has already started going strong in Europe 4 ever. This however is a tangent.

What turns me off about this 8s the condition of the wood and how dried and decrepit it looks. 

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Then why buy it?? You will always look at it in that respect, and it will just get worse with time…

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Restorations are dead money.  Folks who pay for a restoration will never get their money back.  Might as well save your money and spend a little more and get the real deal.

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Then why buy it?? You will always look at it in that respect, and it will just get worse with time…  

The same reason that motivates some people to buy a heap of rusty junk that was once a car or MC and then at great cost restore it; the guys on American Pickers do it all the time, & they usually have the additional major problem of trying to find missing parts.

To the folks (and there must be quite a few of them, considering the wait-time for such work) who are sending Turnbull & others these kinds of restoration projects, it obviously does not get worse with time.  I don’t care for old guns made to look new, but Turnbull wouldn’t have built up such a big business if everyone felt that way.  (I remember seeing Doug at the Syracuse gunshow with 1 or 2 tables to show off the work he’d done; that was 30 or more years ago, & NOW the work comes to him!)

Turning such a beat-up specimen into a restoration project isn’t the best of all possible outcomes for this particular gun, but don’t you think it’s preferable to seeing it broken up for parts?    

     

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Restorations are dead money.  Folks who pay for a restoration will never get their money back. 

True–but plenty of folks do it anyway.  (Because, I guess, getting their money back is not their first priority.)  And though they can’t recover their investment right away, they wind up with something that can be resold much more easily than a beater.

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Restorations are dead money.  Folks who pay for a restoration will never get their money back.  Might as well save your money and spend a little more and get the real deal.  

I agree with that.

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As pointed out above; poor condition, buggered screws, soft market and likely a sewer pipe bore this gun has very little going for it. I’m not sure it would make good trading material once you DO find a decent 1892. Keep your Pesos in your pocket and keep looking. 

 

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Whether you care about getting your money back or not, buy an original in better shape.

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Here’s a .32/20 that very recently sold on gunbroker for $1052.  A heck of a lot better condition and it has a special order feature as a bonus:

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/820973927

Here’s a .32/20 that is nicer yet.  There is the added bonus of the takedown feature.  This one is still in active auction:

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/822755680

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I didnt buy it and I didnt even go look at it. I’ve never bought a gun over the internet before. Just seems unnatural, and foreign to me. But I guess that’s something I’m gonna have to overcome. I’m at a show almost 2 weekends a month, if its within driving distance (2 or 3 hours) I make it. Yall would not believe the junk I see people asking 800$+ for. I mean junk, refinished wood, cut barrels, pitted receivers and mismatched parts on common 94’s. So if something 40 or 50% shows up these folks get crazy, and then they lose control on 92’s and 95’s. It’s pretty slim Pickens down here, thanks for the perspective.

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