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I have the Winchester Book and it contains alot of Winchester rifle variants. An 1886 mentioned in the book has a crescent butt plate with a storage compartment, like an 1873 and they state that it’s a very rare option that was available during that time period. 

My questions are: Can I buy that style butt plate?

Since I probably can’t buy one, im guessing an 1873 one wont fit?

If I get a shotgun style stock, and buttplate( Where can I buy that, I live in Canada?) Is it possible to make a little sliding door? Im the crafty type, but dont have any machines… milling, or anything similar. 

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Kevin,

If your Model 1886 has a standard butt plate on it now, a Trap Door butt plate is not going to fit properly, or be of any use. Winchester specifically cut and bored the butt stocks to match up with the TD butt plate.

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Ok thanks. Id need to make my own then. I’ve barely seen any. I’d like some cleaning rods also if I ever make the trap door. I’ve seen an original set at a gun show but the guy was asking over 300$.

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Ok thanks. Id need to make my own then. I’ve barely seen any. I’d like some cleaning rods also if I ever make the trap door. I’ve seen an original set at a gun show but the guy was asking over 300$.  

That’s about the going rate for an original cleaning rod in decent condition. 

Here’s some good photos of a 1873 trap door butt plate that may help:

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Winchester Model 1873 44-40 circa 1886

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I have an 1873 but Im still contemplating on how id make one. 

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Kev, I have an early 1886 rifle butt stock that is cut for the trapdoor butt plate, but has a standard plate with out the trap door.  I was very surprised when I removed the butt plate the first time.  I always intended to get the correct trapdoor butt plate, but never found one.  I don’t currently have a picture of the stock without the plate on it, but this is what I have.  

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If you are interested, I will dig it out and remove the plate and get you a picture.  The stock appears to have the original finish and has not been sanded.

I paid $375.00 and that’s what I would ask, plus shipping and insurance.  PM or email [email protected]  (best for pictures)

Hope this might help you out.  Roger B.

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 Kev18, You might check out this butt plate on Ebay, it’s cut but the part you need is there. Idem number 203005519686. T/R

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That listing is interesting but I cant see how it would fit on any of those rifles. It seems like the bottom piece of the crescent was chopped off. The stock themselves are standard winchester stocks right? 

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rogertherelic said
Kev, I have an early 1886 rifle butt stock that is cut for the trapdoor butt plate, but has a standard plate with out the trap door.  I was very surprised when I removed the butt plate the first time.  I always intended to get the correct trapdoor butt plate, but never found one.  

There is nothing to correct or anything wrong with your butt stock and butt plat as is. Winchester cut the holes is the stock to help the overall balance of the rifles and to reduce the weight. They were not all intended to have trapdoor butt plates, and on certain calibers Winchester wouldn’t supply cleaning rods for said caliber.

Sincerely,

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I know i have a hole in it already, but i thought I could just buy another butt plate and make a trap door for it. People seem to be saying that I can’t 

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Maverick,  I could be wrong, but I thought the slot that is machined into the butt was to clear the sliding trapdoor and spring.  Please correct or confirm, I am still in the learning process.  Dug out the stock and now I can learn too.  Thanks, Roger B.

 

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rogertherelic said
Maverick,  I could be wrong, but I thought the slot that is machined into the butt was to clear the sliding trapdoor and spring.  Please correct or confirm, I am still in the learning process.  Dug out the stock and now I can learn too.  Thanks, Roger B.

 

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Roger,

You are correct, hence my original statement about a Trap Door butt plate not fitting up to a regular stock correctly.  The butt stock has to be cut to match the sliding trapdoor & spring.

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This is more complicated then I thought 

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I recently bought a Winchester 1886 with original butt plate trapdoor, 

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