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Since its missing the 3-Line address it was likely made sometime from November 1882 to Mid-1883. Yes it is a Winchester Reloading Tool.

As far as value goes, I’ve seen them go any where from $40-100. If you bought it on Ebay, look at Ebay’s recent completed auctions listing and that will give you a go idea for what it’ll sell for on Ebay. Bear in mind that Ebay listings will include shipping and their 15% seller’s fee. So prices on Ebay are higher than what you’d get in person at a gunshow. Your tool doesn’t have much bluing left on it, so more towards the lower end of the spectrum in my opinion.

One problem with Ebay is that you often never know if the die cavity is in good condition or not.

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Maverick said
Since its missing the 3-Line address it was likely made sometime from November 1882 to Mid-1883. Yes it is a Winchester Reloading Tool.

As far as value goes, I’ve seen them go any where from $40-100. If you bought it on Ebay, look at Ebay’s recent completed auctions listing and that will give you a go idea for what it’ll sell for on Ebay. Bear in mind that Ebay listings will include shipping and their 15% seller’s fee. So prices on Ebay are higher than what you’d get in person at a gunshow. Your tool doesn’t have much bluing left on it, so more towards the lower end of the spectrum in my opinion.

One problem with Ebay is that you often never know if the die cavity is in good condition or not.

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I gave $65 so not too far off from what you said.  Now I just need to get something chambered in 38wcf 

thanks again for all the info.  

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Maverick said
Since its missing the 3-Line address it was likely made sometime from November 1882 to Mid-1883. Yes it is a Winchester Reloading Tool.

As far as value goes, I’ve seen them go any where from $40-100. If you bought it on Ebay, look at Ebay’s recent completed auctions listing and that will give you a go idea for what it’ll sell for on Ebay. Bear in mind that Ebay listings will include shipping and their 15% seller’s fee. So prices on Ebay are higher than what you’d get in person at a gunshow. Your tool doesn’t have much bluing left on it, so more towards the lower end of the spectrum in my opinion.

One problem with Ebay is that you often never know if the die cavity is in good condition or not.

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Maverick

  

Another problem with eBay is they charge sales tax.

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Another problem with eBay is they charge sales tax.  

You can thank the Supreme Court for that! Before 2018 they didn’t collect sales tax. All online vendors are required to collect sales tax now. Ebay actually fought this decision but had to roll over when Uncle Sam came to collect. 

The term “Wayfair” in the context of US law refers to the landmark Supreme Court case South Dakota v. Wayfair, Inc. (2018). 
Impact of Wayfair:
  1. Overturned Physical Presence Rule: The Wayfair decision overturned the long-standing “physical presence” rule established in Quill Corp. v. North Dakota (1992). This rule previously dictated that states could only require businesses to collect sales tax if they had a physical presence within the state (e.g., a store, office, or warehouse).
  2. Established Economic Nexus: Wayfair introduced the concept of “economic nexus,” which allows states to require businesses to collect sales tax even if they lack a physical presence, as long as they have a significant economic presence (e.g., a certain volume of sales or number of transactions) within the state.
  3. Impact on Online Retailers: This decision significantly impacted online retailers, as they are now potentially subject to sales tax collection obligations in a larger number of states, based on their economic activity, rather than just their physical presence.
  4. Increased State Revenue: The Wayfair decision allows states to collect sales tax from out-of-state sellers, potentially generating substantial new revenue. 
Key Takeaway:
The Wayfair decision significantly changed the landscape of sales tax collection in the US, particularly for online businesses. It shifted the focus from physical presence to economic activity when determining sales tax obligations, giving states broader authority to require remote sellers to collect and remit sales tax.
 
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Maverick said

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Another problem with eBay is they charge sales tax.  

You can thank the Supreme Court for that! Before 2018 they didn’t collect sales tax. All online vendors are required to collect sales tax now. Ebay actually fought this decision but had to roll over when Uncle Sam came to collect. 

The term “Wayfair” in the context of US law refers to the landmark Supreme Court case South Dakota v. Wayfair, Inc. (2018). 
Impact of Wayfair:
    1. Overturned Physical Presence Rule: The Wayfair decision overturned the long-standing “physical presence” rule established in Quill Corp. v. North Dakota (1992). This rule previously dictated that states could only require businesses to collect sales tax if they had a physical presence within the state (e.g., a store, office, or warehouse).
    1. Established Economic Nexus: Wayfair introduced the concept of “economic nexus,” which allows states to require businesses to collect sales tax even if they lack a physical presence, as long as they have a significant economic presence (e.g., a certain volume of sales or number of transactions) within the state.
    1. Impact on Online Retailers: This decision significantly impacted online retailers, as they are now potentially subject to sales tax collection obligations in a larger number of states, based on their economic activity, rather than just their physical presence.
    1. Increased State Revenue: The Wayfair decision allows states to collect sales tax from out-of-state sellers, potentially generating substantial new revenue. 
Key Takeaway:
The Wayfair decision significantly changed the landscape of sales tax collection in the US, particularly for online businesses. It shifted the focus from physical presence to economic activity when determining sales tax obligations, giving states broader authority to require remote sellers to collect and remit sales tax.
 

  

That decision was wrong.  There’s enough other taxes in this country already.

Ivalso think used items should be exempt from sales taxes as, theoretically, a tax was paid on them originally.

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Well I guess throw your tea in the harbor and write your congressman and see how far that gets you. I know if you don’t pay it, they’re quick to throw you in jail, or at the very least suspend your driving status. You know its a scam when you find out that you can pay owed taxes with a credit card.

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Upon further investigation tonight. I did miss the 3 letter address on the obverse due to pitting.  Armed with the information now, I know what a deal is. Not unhappy with my purchase. Thanks

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Also,  the box of green tea in the cupboard is going to nearest municipal body of water tomorrow morning. 

Thanks,

Adam

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New addition:

Winchester 3-line Manuf address-reloading tool, stamped 45-60 WCF -Pat date Sept 14, 1880 stamped

Winchester 45-60 bullet mold, stamped 45-60 (Appears to be casting 300 gr FP bullets). Three-line WRA address also on 45-60 bullet mold

 

{This set accompanying /used for: An 1885 Winchester HW SS; 45-60 WCF-30 in full oct-Shipped in 1886.}Mid-range Winchester Vernier sight.

Note-the 45-60 WCF was also a chambering in the 1876 Model.

 

Bert has this 1885 SN in his  1885 SS survey, as the 45-60 WCF was a relatively rarer chambering in this SS Model.

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