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Model 90, 06, 62 & 62A survey
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I have been remiss in posting this, but better late than never.

There is a research survey in progress for all Model 90, 06, 62, and 62A slide-action rifles with a serial number greater than 713199

Specifically, the Model 06 receivers with the “B” marking under the serial number on the receiver ended at serial number 685999 on 3/10/1926.  Half-way through the day on 3/10/1926, the Model 90 receivers with the “A” marking were discontinued after serial number 713199.  Beginning with serial number 713200 the Model 90 and Model 06 shared the same receiver and serial number range.  This practice continued through serial number 846022 (June 6th, 1932), when the Models 90 and 06 were discontinued and replaced with the Model 62.  From serial  number 846023 (February 6th, 1933) through serial number 854757 (November 23rd, 1949), a total of 8,735 parts clean-up Model 90 and Model 06 rifles were assembled.  Also in that 8,735 serial number range, there were an unknown number of Model 62 & 62A rifles assembled using the Model 90 receiver frames. 

This survey will help to determine how many Model 90 and Model 06 rifles were actually manufactured during the regular production run, and how many were made during the parts clean-up run.  It will also document the number that were made in each cartridge, and document the variants that were assembled by Winchester.

I am assisting E.W. Hall in this survey, and I will be forwarding all information gathered from WACA members to him.  Feel free to ask questions!

Thanks to all who participate,

Bert

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Bert:

Model 06 with serial number “795618” marked on bbl ass’y in front of trigger guard and same # “795618” on bottom tang.  Standard S, L, & LR.

Model 62A with serial number “854495B” marked on bbl ass’y in front of trigger guard and “854495” on lower tang (no “B”).  Standard S, L, & LR.  You may have this one.

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Bill,

Thanks for the survey information.  3dub (EWH) who you know over on the RimfireCentral forum is my cohort in crime on this survey, and Yes, he has your 62A.  He is doing a wonderful job with the survey, and the information complied thus far will make for a fantastic article on this subject in the not so distant future.

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Great!

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I can contribute these serial numbers from my collection…..

Model 90’s…759423 short…790456 deluxe plain pistol grip short…804131 WRF…808294 WRF…813751 long…833091 long rifle

Model 06…764065 sllr

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Rustyjack said
I can contribute these serial numbers from my collection…..

Model 90’s…759423 short…790456 deluxe plain pistol grip short…804131 WRF…808294 WRF…813751 long…833091 long rifle

Model 06…764065 sllr  

Rusty,

Thank you very much for participating in the research survey!

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I’m sure I have a few that will fall in that category. I won’t be home until about October 1st and will send my data then……….

 

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Erin Grivicich said
I’m sure I have a few that will fall in that category. I won’t be home until about October 1st and will send my data then……….

 

Erin  

Thank you, and I will look forward to it.

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Here are three more for the survey, Bert:

Model 90, .22 LR, 758137

Model 90, .22 WRF, SN 769877

Model 90, .22 Short, 846903

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James,

Thanks for the data. The survey is growing at a nice rate!

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I believe this was recorded over in Rimfire as well…………… but just in case.

 

MODEL CALIBER BARREL       SERIAL # NOTES      
62           22 short            23″   851031   Pg. 150 Schwing, Model 90 Receiver, triangle port
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I only came up with one in that serial # range……… Number 714529 model 90 chambered in 22 long

 

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Model 90 #719180  22 Long

Model 90 #837219  22 Long Rifle

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Rapid taper, standard taper, extra heavy. All 45 caliber.

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Bert, I think you have mine.   Big Larry

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Standard Production Summary:

Thanks to everyone who has contributed. The survey typically grows by several numbers per week.

This is where we stand to date with 434 rifles in the Standard Production category (SNs 713200 to 846022):

Model 90s: 281 (65%)

Model 06s: 153 (35%)

This 65/35 split has been pretty consistent for awhile so I expect that to continue. 

Chambering:

22 Short: 14.1% 

22 Long: 5.3%

22 Long Rifle: 20.3%

22 WRF: 23.7%

22 S/L/LR: 36.6%

We have chambering information for 418 of the 434 entries so the percentages for 153 Model 06s the don’t match exactly.

Lowest SN in this range: 713202 (a model 90/22Short)

Highest SN in this range: 844518 (a model 90/22 WRF)

22 Long popularity – The highest 22 Long recorded to date is 813751, made in July 1929. All other chamberings continued throughout standard production (June 1932) and well into the the “cleanup” era.

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Parts-Cleanup Era Production (serial numbers after 846022):

Thanks to everyone who has contributed. This part of the survey is growing much more slowly – with only 8,735 possible versus the 132,000+ in the Standard Production range.

Model 90s: 20 (32.3%)

Model 06s: 10 (16.1%)

Model 62s: 17 (27.4%)

Model 62As: 15 (24.2%)

Chambering:

22 Short: 16 (29.1%). Most are 90s and 62s. So far, only one has been reported as a 62A. 

22 Long: 0 (0%)

22 Long Rifle: 6 (10.9%)

22 WRF: 6 (10.9%)

22 S/L/LR: 27 (49.1%)

We have chambering information for 55 of the 62 entries so the percentages are skewed.

Lowest SN in this range: 846207 (a model 62)

Highest SN in this range: 854519 (a model 06)

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Replying to 06 survey:

SN: 839759 in both locations, ahead of the trigger guard and lower tang.  S, L and LR.  Gumwood stock and forend.  For a gun of that era’s expected use, the wood and actual remaining blue exhibit minimal use.

Were it not for 50-60% bluing flaking on the receiver and a couple of small spots on the barrel, it would grade out very high.  

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I believe this one meets the criteria.

Model 1890  Serial #814265  22 Long Rifle standard configuration

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Thanks for the new additions to the Standard Production survey:

And as is often the case I have to make an update. I did a little more digging and found one later 22 Long (SN 838XXX). That puts the latest 22 Long in the January/February 1931 timeframe.

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I have model 90 in 22Long Rifle serial 819051 with no A and same on frame and tang

I also have model 06 serial 800175 on frame and tang with no letter

I also have model 06 serial 830245 on frame and tang with no letter.

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