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DQL5150
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October 12, 2025 - 11:57 pm
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I hope I can add one. My father’s 61.

sn 223489,

22S, L, LR

round barrel, no crown

no “W”

no tang screws

grooved receiver

plastic plate

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DQL5150 said
I hope I can add one. My father’s 61.
sn 223489,
22S, L, LR
round barrel, no crown
no “W”
no tang screws
grooved receiver
plastic plate
  

Thanks so much.  Your father’s rifle has been added into my work.  That is a 1955 vintage rifle and interesting that it has a black plastic butt plate on it.  They are not consistently found until 1958 production but they do pop up occasionally before that.

Michael

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Hi Micheal, here’s a model 61 for the survey that I recently picked up. 95%+ condition. 

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Rick C said
Hi Micheal, here’s a model 61 for the survey that I recently picked up. 95%+ condition. 

  

Thanks Rick.  The muzzle should be cut flat as opposed to being crowned.

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Rick C said
Hi Micheal, here’s a model 61 for the survey that I recently picked up. 95%+ condition. 
  

Thanks Rick.  The muzzle should be cut flat as opposed to being crowned.
Michael
  

Yes Michael the muzzle is flat and not crowned. Here’s a pic of the butt plate. 

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twobit said

DQL5150 said
I hope I can add one. My father’s 61.
sn 223489,
22S, L, LR
round barrel, no crown
no “W”
no tang screws
grooved receiver
plastic plate
  

Thanks so much.  Your father’s rifle has been added into my work.  That is a 1955 vintage rifle and interesting that it has a black plastic butt plate on it.  They are not consistently found until 1958 production but they do pop up occasionally before that.
Michael
  

twobit, I’ve given you incorrect information on this rifle. It does indeed have a checkered steel butt plate and rounded crown.

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DQL5150 said

twobit said

DQL5150 said
I hope I can add one. My father’s 61.
sn 223489,
22S, L, LR
round barrel, no crown
no “W”
no tang screws
grooved receiver
plastic plate
  

Thanks so much.  Your father’s rifle has been added into my work.  That is a 1955 vintage rifle and interesting that it has a black plastic butt plate on it.  They are not consistently found until 1958 production but they do pop up occasionally before that.
Michael
  

twobit, I’ve given you incorrect information on this rifle. It does indeed have a checkered steel butt plate and rounded crown.
  

Thanks for checking.  I have updated my spreadsheet with the corrections.

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Hello,

New member here and need information on a 61 smooth bore that I own. 
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Hello,
New member here and need information on a 61 smooth bore that I own. 
Gerry
  

Please start by providing us with the serial number, and a few pictures of the rifle.

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Serial number is 131156. I don’t know how to add photos. 
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Hi Gerry and Welcome to the WACA Forum!

As a WACA “guest” you will need to upload your photos to an external host site and then you can provide a link to them here.

Alternatively, you can email your photos to me and I can post them here for you.  

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Thank you

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Gypsy1 said
Thank you
  

Send the photos to me at [email protected] and I will be happy to take a look at it and answer any questions that you might have.  Right now I can tell you that the rifle was manufactured during 1949 and based on the data in my research survey SN 131153 is identical to yours.

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Here are Gerry’s photos for Model 61 serial #131156 – 

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Thanks for posting the images of the rifle.  The photo of the muzzle clearly indicates that the rifle is a “Counter bore” variation of the Model 61.  It is actaully a shotgun vs a rifle.  SN 131153 sold in Dec at the Cady Auction for $3300.

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Thank you Michael, I have read that these guns have been faked in the past. I reached out to the Center of the West Museum but was told information on my gun is not available. 

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The gun is beautiful and in what I have been told to be in 95-98%. To nice for my collection and will probably seek to sell to a serious collector. 
Gerry

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