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April 2, 2024
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I hope I can add one. My father’s 61.
sn 223489,
22S, L, LR
round barrel, no crown
no “W”
no tang screws
grooved receiver
plastic plate
March 20, 2009
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DQL5150 said
I hope I can add one. My father’s 61.
sn 223489,
22S, L, LR
round barrel, no crown
no “W”
no tang screws
grooved receiver
plastic plate
Thanks so much. Your father’s rifle has been added into my work. That is a 1955 vintage rifle and interesting that it has a black plastic butt plate on it. They are not consistently found until 1958 production but they do pop up occasionally before that.
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
March 14, 2022
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Hi Micheal, here’s a model 61 for the survey that I recently picked up. 95%+ condition.
Rick C
March 20, 2009
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Rick C said
Hi Micheal, here’s a model 61 for the survey that I recently picked up. 95%+ condition.
Thanks Rick. The muzzle should be cut flat as opposed to being crowned.
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
March 14, 2022
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twobit said
Rick C said
Hi Micheal, here’s a model 61 for the survey that I recently picked up. 95%+ condition.
Thanks Rick. The muzzle should be cut flat as opposed to being crowned.
Michael
Yes Michael the muzzle is flat and not crowned. Here’s a pic of the butt plate.
Rick C
April 2, 2024
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twobit said
DQL5150 said
I hope I can add one. My father’s 61.
sn 223489,
22S, L, LR
round barrel, no crown
no “W”
no tang screws
grooved receiver
plastic plate
Thanks so much. Your father’s rifle has been added into my work. That is a 1955 vintage rifle and interesting that it has a black plastic butt plate on it. They are not consistently found until 1958 production but they do pop up occasionally before that.
Michael
twobit, I’ve given you incorrect information on this rifle. It does indeed have a checkered steel butt plate and rounded crown.
March 20, 2009
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DQL5150 said
twobit said
DQL5150 said
I hope I can add one. My father’s 61.
sn 223489,
22S, L, LR
round barrel, no crown
no “W”
no tang screws
grooved receiver
plastic plate
Thanks so much. Your father’s rifle has been added into my work. That is a 1955 vintage rifle and interesting that it has a black plastic butt plate on it. They are not consistently found until 1958 production but they do pop up occasionally before that.
Michael
twobit, I’ve given you incorrect information on this rifle. It does indeed have a checkered steel butt plate and rounded crown.
Thanks for checking. I have updated my spreadsheet with the corrections.
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
October 18, 2025
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Hello,
New member here and need information on a 61 smooth bore that I own.
Gerry
April 15, 2005
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Gypsy1 said
Hello,
New member here and need information on a 61 smooth bore that I own.
Gerry
Please start by providing us with the serial number, and a few pictures of the rifle.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
October 18, 2025
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Serial number is 131156. I don’t know how to add photos.
Gerry
July 17, 2012
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Hi Gerry and Welcome to the WACA Forum!
As a WACA “guest” you will need to upload your photos to an external host site and then you can provide a link to them here.
Alternatively, you can email your photos to me and I can post them here for you.
Best Regards,
WACA Life Member #6284 - Specializing in Pre-64 Winchester .22 Rimfire
October 18, 2025
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Thank you
March 20, 2009
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Gypsy1 said
Thank you
Send the photos to me at [email protected] and I will be happy to take a look at it and answer any questions that you might have. Right now I can tell you that the rifle was manufactured during 1949 and based on the data in my research survey SN 131153 is identical to yours.
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
July 17, 2012
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Here are Gerry’s photos for Model 61 serial #131156 –
WACA Life Member #6284 - Specializing in Pre-64 Winchester .22 Rimfire
March 20, 2009
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Thanks for posting the images of the rifle. The photo of the muzzle clearly indicates that the rifle is a “Counter bore” variation of the Model 61. It is actaully a shotgun vs a rifle. SN 131153 sold in Dec at the Cady Auction for $3300.
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
October 18, 2025
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Thank you Michael, I have read that these guns have been faked in the past. I reached out to the Center of the West Museum but was told information on my gun is not available.
October 18, 2025
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The gun is beautiful and in what I have been told to be in 95-98%. To nice for my collection and will probably seek to sell to a serious collector.
Gerry
December 20, 2023
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1) 2238945
2) Round
3) 22SL or LR
4) no
5) no
6) N/A
7) checkered steel
8) yes – grooved
9) muzzle crowned
10) not collared
December 20, 2023
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Serial# 238945
March 20, 2009
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12 NUT said
1) 2238945
2) Round
3) 22SL or LR
4) no
5) no
6) N/A
7) checkered steel
8) yes – grooved
9) muzzle crowned
10) not collared
Thanks so much. It’s a new one for my data. I have seen 238944 for sale 3 times since I started this project. Your rifle was manufactured during 1956. I am just a few rifles short of 10,300 samples!
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
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