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Bert H.
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Edward Kitner said
Bert, three more for your survey.  

All three are SRC’s with 20″ bbls.

#934193, 30WCF, carbine sights

#956985, 32WS, with 32WS marked sight

#921263, 30WCF, carbine sights

  

#921263 – October 1920, does it have Gumwood or Walnut stocks? 

#934193 – November 1921, same question, Gumwood or Walnut stocks? 

#956985 – April 1923, same question, Gumwood or Walnut stocks? I will assume that you are referring to the Special Smokeless sight?

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I believe they all had Walnut stocks.  All the stocks were dark, if that is any indication!

#956985, yes the special smokeless marked rear sight.

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Hello Bert,

I apoligize for not getting back to you oh the above 1894 rifles.  By the time I got back to the gun shop that had the rifles two were gone the remaining one was Gum wood.

I have another that fits in your spectrum for the 1894 rifles.

 

1894

#585137

Flush mag tube

Long fore stock

30 WCF

I am not sure about the bbl length, 24″ or 26″

Trap door in the butt.

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Edward Kitner said
Hello Bert,
I apoligize for not getting back to you oh the above 1894 rifles.  By the time I got back to the gun shop that had the rifles two were gone the remaining one was Gum wood.
I have another that fits in your spectrum for the 1894 rifles.
 
1894
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Flush mag tube
Long fore stock
30 WCF
I am not sure about the bbl length, 24″ or 26″
Trap door in the butt.
  

Is this a standard Sporting rifle?  

26″ round barrel, full length mag, crescent butt ?

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Yes, crescent butt.

Not positive on the bbl length.

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Edward Kitner said
Yes, crescent butt.
Not positive on the bbl length.
  

Standard length was 26″.  Did it have a round or an octagon barrel?

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Round bbl.  I did write down 26″ for the bbl but didn’t measure it.

I am sorry you have to pull this info out of me, I will have to come up with some sort of check off list to carry when I visit gun shops!

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Edward Kitner said
Round bbl.  I did write down 26″ for the bbl but didn’t measure it.
I am sorry you have to pull this info out of me, I will have to come up with some sort of check off list to carry when I visit gun shops!
  

No problem… I am quite adept at asking questions. Smile

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Bert, at this pms gun show 1894 on tang, model 94 on barrel. SN  752597. 1/2 mag take-down. Asking $1700. Also, mode4l 1894 1/2 mag SN 710645. That is all I can tell you.

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86Win said
Bert, at this pms gun show 1894 on tang, model 94 on barrel. SN  752597. 1/2 mag take-down. Asking $1700. Also, mode4l 1894 1/2 mag SN 710645. That is all I can tell you.
  

It does not do me much good.  The rifle with “1894” on the tang and “94” on the barrel is not factory original (replaced barrel).

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Bert, I know but thought WACA members should know about this and that the SN could be used for future reference. Don

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Hello,

  New to the forum. I just purchased a Winchester model 1894 in 30 WCF. It has a half round half octagon barrel that measures 26 inches. It also has three leaf express sites a crescent butt plate and a button mag. The serial number is 395995. Any information would be greatly appreciated and I hope this helps your survey.

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Centennialrifle said
Hello,
  New to the forum. I just purchased a Winchester model 1894 in 30 WCF. It has a half round half octagon barrel that measures 26 inches. It also has three leaf express sites a crescent butt plate and a button mag. The serial number is 395995. Any information would be greatly appreciated and I hope this helps your survey.
  

I had this rifle previously documented in the survey.  Per the factory records, it was manufactured in May 1908.

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Just out of curiosity is it all original? The barrel has quite a bit more bluing than the rest of the metal parts. Thanks.

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Centennialrifle said
Just out of curiosity is it all original? The barrel has quite a bit more bluing than the rest of the metal parts. Thanks.
  

You will need to post (or send me) clear pictures of the rifle.  I do not remember what it specifically looked like, and my research survey records just note the physical statistical information (i.e. barrel length, barrel contour, variation, magazine length, stock configuration, etc.).

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