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About 3′ x 3′ and framed almost hermetically, cartridges are all fairly bright, thought to be circa 1880’s. Can find no info on this and really have not yet had time to study the dummy cartridges but they appear to be similarly attached as other boards. Possibly this was used in a Winchester office or at a regional or world exposition. The frame is made very well, many, many years ago as an insert into a wall; a shadow box style, glass face. It can not be taken apart without destroying the frame. I can’t quite figure out how to add a photo so will try to put some photos up on my Winchester Page on my site at http://www.NEACA.com. I don’t get much free time to check this forum so you may email me direct if you like at [email protected].
Hope this doesn’t offend you but I believe you have yourself a fake cartridge board.
Every original Cartridge board I’ve ever seen will have the company’s name lithographed onto the background piece of paper and will also be marked on the back of the board. Most boards even have serial numbers, while a few don’t. They will also have various hunting scenes, the “H” from the Henry cartridge headstamp, and will have the caliber of each cartridge or shotshell printed for the represented cartridge. Here are some examples.
Afraid you have someone’s home made board.
Sincerely,
Maverick
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David,
Also figured I’d mention that there is a nice article on cartridge boards by Paul R. Wells in the Spring 1991 Collector Magazine pages 18-24. Being a WACA member you should have no problem viewing the article through the new Magazine Tab on the website. That is of course if you don’t already have a copy of the physical magazine yourself.
Sincerely,
Maverick
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Thought that I’d also add this.
From page 51 of the Summer 1991 collector magazine. Me stating earlier that you have someone’s “fake” cartridge board maybe over the top. You may have someone’s perfectly real cartridge board that is of modern production and not a original factory collectable antique. I don’t know if this company is still in business or not. They seemingly make / made some nice looking boards and there is no telling how many variations they may have come up with.
Sincerely,
Maverick
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Can’t quite figure out how to answer or actually view this feed or conversation so this is my reply. It was sold to one of the largest cartridge board collectors in the country and he was very happy to be the new owner. I thought it was fake when I bought it but on inspection and research I believe it is one of a kind from around 1880 and possibly from an exposition. But what do I know?
Price not withstanding, a very good looking cartridge board! I have a number of the modern Tatonka Cartridge boards that I, and all my gun buddies absolutely love.
Maverick said
Hope this doesn’t offend you but I believe you have yourself a fake cartridge board.
Considering all the expertly faked guns in circulation, this wouldn’t be surprising.
However, if the cartridges are original, this would still be a valuable display item, just not in the stratospheric price range of original boards. The thing I would look most closely at would be the frame itself; does it appear to have significant age to it? If so, could, conceivably, be a period piece, even if not Winchester-made.
Maverick said
You may have someone’s perfectly real cartridge board that is of modern production and not a original factory collectable antique. I don’t know if this company is still in business or not. They seemingly make / made some nice looking boards and there is no telling how many variations they may have come up with.Maverick
Even with some expert aging, think it would be hard to pass one of these off as a period piece.
clarence said
Even with some expert aging, think it would be hard to pass one of these off as a period piece.
I still believe it can and would be done by someone wanting to make a quick buck.
All I’ve previously stated about the board in the first post I still hold fast too.
The only board I’ve ever seen or heard of that doesn’t have or use lithographs and have the calibers marked / listed next to the cartridges, is on the cover of Volume 1 of Dan Shuey’s book “W.R.A.Co. Headstamped Cartridges and Their Variations”. That board resides at the Cody museum, and if I call correctly was never mass produced. Also believe it was in the factory offices for many years before being sent to the Cody museum. The Cody board looks quite different from this board.
Sincerely,
Maverick
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