clarence said
Chuck said
Clarence what catalog would be good to find? I only have one from 1951. Would Cornell have any good repos?
Haven’t looked at Cornell’s selection, but assume so. I found a really high-quality repro of #5 (c. 1890) pub by Hoyem Books in ’92; I wouldn’t sell it for $50. Many collect the originals, so they aren’t cheap, but I’ve bought several ’20s & ’30 eds from $30 to $40 on ebay; the pre-smokeless eds would of course be considerably more.
Sorry, I will rephrases it. If Cornell has copies for sale which ones should I buy?
Chuck said
Sorry, I will rephrases it. If Cornell has copies for sale which ones should I buy?
Guess it depends on particular cartridges you might be interested in, but this one from 1898 would have all the old BP info & possibly newer info on smokeless; but it’s only one of a doz or more available:
clarence said
Maverick said
I don’t know anywhere near as much about the Ideal Tools as I do the Winchester Tools. Just not my cup of tea.
I’ll be very surprised if reading an early (BP) Ideal Handbook doesn’t change your mind! Not only was former Sgt. Barlow a character, he knew every aspect of loading & casting forwards & backwards, & his handbooks are a gold-mine of bullet & cartridge info.
No No, don’t get me wrong. Its not that I don’t appreciate Ideal Tools, I just don’t pursue collecting them. I have a few, but I collect Winchester. “Not my cup of tea”, towards collecting them. I’ve got more than one tea glass to choose from in my cupboard. Plus I’m from the South, and we all love our Sweet Tea!
The man himself, John Barlow I consider a genius. Several Winchester Loading Tools and other aspects in the field are Barlow’s design while he worked at Winchester before going his own path.
I use modern turret presses for reloading ammo batches anyways.
Sincerely,
Maverick
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Chuck said
Maverick said
About the only caliber I have yet to find in the Tools and Molds is in 45-85 Marlin.
Sincerely,
Maverick
The 45-85 Marlin, Ballard and Colt cartridges are hard to find too. All of these are the 45-70 case length. I bet one of these is what you need. Everything is for large frame Colts.
Great display, one of the loading tools is identical to a Winchester 1894 tool and one of the bullet moulds looks like a Winchester. A very nice nickel Lightning belonging to Erin Douglas was also in this display at the NRA show. Ammo display was pretty awesome, too. Enjoyed visiting with Mike Kelly, very knowledgeable.
Mike
TXGunNut said Great display, one of the loading tools is identical to a Winchester 1894 tool and one of the bullet moulds looks like a Winchester. A very nice nickel Lightning belonging to Erin Douglas was also in this display at the NRA show. Ammo display was pretty awesome, too. Enjoyed visiting with Mike Kelly, very knowledgeable. Mike
Mike,
Its not identical or looks like. It is a Winchester Reloading Tool & Bullet Mold. Winchester produced them for the 40-60 Colts Lightning caliber.
All of the reloading tools shown in the display that I can tell are from Winchester, Marlin, & Ideal.
As far as I’m aware Colt never got into the Reloading Tool business. They made bullet molds, but they’re generally the small pistol caliber molds.
Here are examples of the Winchester Tool and Mold in 40-60 Colts Lightning.
Sincerely,
Maverick
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