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This early first model 1890 is quite expensive. Is it the rare barrel marking??
http://www.thewinchestergrove.com/1890/2xxx.htm
just trying to learn.
Thanks,
Al
The following says it all, Al: (it is a beauty, too!)
James
Added: Yes, the barrel address with the broken D. The “AA” is in reference to the tang marking as shown in Schwing’s book.
2xxx
22 Short
1890
Case Color
95%
$12,900
Early Solid Frame with Extremely Rare Double A marking, 95%Case Colored Receiver with Nice Case Color on Tang and Butt, Broken D in address, Solid Wood with a few impressions, Great Bore. Letter
Yes, this is indeed, a rare 1st model variation and the case colors are very nice. Extremely hard to find in this condition. The AA is a major plus, for those who collect model 1890’s.
This is a very nice looking gun but it is over priced. There is a lot of color left but not 95%. I am sure you are aware that the solid frame guns have a longer barrel too. One thing that hurts the gun is the caliber. 22 short is the least desirable. WRF being the most desirable.
thanks for the reply’s. I’ll need to look at Schwings book on the 1890. I’m curious to learn more about the “AA” tang marking.
The gun in question seems awful expensive.
Al
And do keep this in mind. The rifle most likely was purchased just a short time ago by this dealer for FAR LESS money and then marked up to be resold on his site. Which raises the question about what the real value of any of these rifles are.
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
Schwing will show the 90-AA as a seldom found tang but there is an even more rare one that he missed. These would have to be called 90-AAA. I’ve only seen two and not on complete guns. <img alt="" src="
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twobit said
And do keep this in mind. The rifle most likely was purchased just a short time ago by this dealer for FAR LESS money and then marked up to be resold on his site. Which raises the question about what the real value of any of these rifles are.Michael
marked up a by a lot I suspect.
Rustyjack said
Schwing will show the 90-AA as a seldom found tang but there is an even more rare one that he missed. These would have to be called 90-AAA. I’ve only seen two and not on complete guns.
I don’t see AA, or AAA on the tangs in your pictures. What am I missing??
Al
90-A and 90-AA is only the designation used by Schwing for different tang inscriptions (90-A thru 90-H actually)…not by Winchester…and not marked on the part.
Rustyjack said
90-A and 90-AA is only the designation used by Schwing for different tang inscriptions (90-A thru 90-H actually)…not by Winchester…and not marked on the part.
Thanks Rustyjack, now I understand.
Al
What Michael said about Don rings true to me. For example, about a half dozen years back he purchased an 1890 in the 6k range, as I recall, and put it on his site for 12k+. He had another rifle that I liked back about twenty years ago and wanted in the vicinity of 3k for it, and I thought $1500 would have been closer to market value. That said, I do not know what sale price he realized for either of them.
Rustyjack: Thanks for the information.
James
I handled rifle this at a recent show. The receiver, hammer, and butt plate have all been refinished. The butt stock has also been replaced.
What is the standard barrel length for an early 2nd model 1890? Mine is 24″ and has a broken “R” not a broken “D” in the barrel stamp. It reads MANUFACTUPED instead of MANUFACTURED… Are all the early 2nd model stamps like this one?
Len
I also have one with that anomaly. A 24 inch barrel with the 90-1 style address. That address is commonly on the early 24 3/8 in. barrels, but evidently this die was still around and being used to mark later barrels. This one is from a rifle made in 1899.
I have noticed many small variations not in Schwing’s book and put up a post about them here..
http://winchester1890.blogspot.com/2018/03/winchester-model-1890some-things-ned.html?view=magazine
Austin said
I handled rifle this at a recent show. The receiver, hammer, and butt plate have all been refinished. The butt stock has also been replaced.
Thanks for the information, Austin!
James
Rustyjack said
Schwing will show the 90-AA as a seldom found tang but there is an even more rare one that he missed. These would have to be called 90-AAA. I’ve only seen two and not on complete guns.
Rustyjack,
Here’s another type 90-AAA for you that’s on a gun. SN 764 in .22 Short.
Look again Bill…That’s the most common one 90-A. Notice the full year 1888 on the 90-AAA.
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Rustyjack said
Look again Bill…That’s the most common one 90-A. Notice the full year 1888 on the 90-AAA.
Whoops!
My bad. Sorry. Thanks for pointing that out. I should have referred to Schwing’s book and looked closer at your photo’s.
Rustyjack said
I also have one with that anomaly. A 24 inch barrel with the 90-1 style address. That address is commonly on the early 24 3/8 in. barrels, but evidently this die was still around and being used to mark later barrels. This one is from a rifle made in 1899.
I have noticed many small variations not in Schwing’s book and put up a post about them here..
http://winchester1890.blogspot.com/2018/03/winchester-model-1890some-things-ned.html?view=magazine
That’s interesting as mine was also manufactured in June of 1899. Out of curiosity how far is your serial number from 780?
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