May 23, 2009
Well thought I just had to share this one, while its not a Winchester, I wasn’t going to exactly turn down a free Single Shot Rifle. Even if its a parts gun, I never in my dreams thought I’d actually “Find a Gun” somewhere. Just doesn’t happen everyday.
Today while working on a remodel job in the attic mechanical chase space of a College campus auditorium building, I found this puppy leaned in the corner of the attic.
I don’t know a whole lot about Remington Rolling Blocks, but what I gather is that its the military style model #1 and appears to have the Danish crown on the left side of the receiver. It must have been used as a stage prop gun by the art department in the college’s auditorium. The building was built in 1963. So I’m guessing in the 60s or 70s someone in the art department used it for theater play production. It is missing the forearm, forearms bands, the extractor, the firing pin, and the hammer spring. The barrel has been plugged, either on purpose or by accident. Looks on purpose as both ends of the barrel are obstructed not far the way into the barrel. Also the obstruction appears to be made of lead. The barrel has a slight bend to it. The barrel doesn’t have any markings on it that I can find. So I’m assuming someone broke the forearm when they bent the barrel. It has a replacement receiver screw. The upper tang is marked Remingtons’ Ilion NY U.S.A. with the last patent date year of 1866. I pulled the buttstock and found the left side of the top and bottom tangs have mismatched numbers. The buttstock and butt plate doesn’t appear to have discernable markings.
I’m guessing its chambered for the .43 Danish or .43 Egyptian, which I don’t have either one of those cartridges, and a 45 Gov case won’t fit. I have a .43 Mauser case and it fits in the chamber but appears loose.
Is there a fellow WACA member that is also a Rolling Block collector and can tell me anything more about it?
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November 20, 2019
it is not a Danish Rolling Block: they kept the concave (original) breech block to the end of production, and this one has a flat breech block. (which also dates the gun after August 1870)
If a 43 Mauser get in, the odds are the gun is chambered in .43 Egyptian, as it is the RB caliber with the larger base size. The rear sight is coherent for an Egyptian contract gun (but would not fit on a Danish one)
The baionnet lug is ok for an Egyptian gun (that used a saber baionnet).
Alternatively, it could be a “Greek” model converted to 43 Egyptian, as most were, because the .42 Berdan was nowhere near as plentiful as the 43 Egyptian.