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I picked this gun up a short time ago. It has been refinished so the 3500.00 price I paid may be to much but I love matted barrels so had to have it even though refinished. The gun is light and looks awesome. How rare are inscribed guns?
Thanks Gerald
Gerald,
It is a very nice looking Extra Lightweight Fancy Rifle, and whomever it was that restored it, they did a masterful job! Inscribed Winchesters are rarer than fully engraved specimens. While some might be shy about the price you paid, I think that it was very reasonable… where are you going to get another one just like it?
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Exceptional rifle!! $3500? No problem at all!!! Unless J.C. Merrell had two identical rifles made you will NEVER find another one like it!
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
Beautiful rifle, and the restoration has been superbly done from what I can see.
Nice looking rifle. Whoever refinished it did a good job on the metal. Its super hard to find rifles with matted barrels, one of the rarer options out there in my opinion.
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Thanks fellas for your thoughts. I have more valuable 94s in my collection but this one is my favorite. It is lite and when you put it to your shoulder it just feels right.
Gerald
Chuck said
Is it normal to have the barrel address on the right side?
Chuck,
For a 1902 vintage rifle the address should be two lines and on the left side of the barrel just over the fore end cap. Additionally, the barrel is marked “MODEL 94” on the left side which is definitely not correct. 
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
Thanks Michael. I took another look and now see address info on both sides.
tionesta1 said
A model 1894 of this vintage shouldn’t have proof marks. Right?
Proofing the barrel and receiver started in July of 1905.
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
Looks like the Type 6 barrel markings from what can be seen of the markings, putting the barrel at about 1927 or so. There does not appear to be any Circle-P so would have to assume the barrel was replaced with like kind somewhere around or at that time frame. Had someone made up the barrel it would be anticipated it would have barrel markings matching the time frame for which it was originally produced (1902). The matting pattern looks similar to others out there. If the barrel was replaced in the late 20’s, it could potentially date the refinish work???
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Looks like the Type 6 barrel markings from what can be seen of the markings, putting the barrel at about 1927 or so.
Barrels with the Model designation on them first appear on Model 1892’s on receivers which were serialized in late 1925. Almost all 1926 vintage rifles have this style of barrel markings. Robert Renneberg states that the Type 6 barrel stamps start around SN 960000 which corresponds to 1923 for the Model 94’s.
If the barrel is a “restoration” replacement then whoever did it blew it by creating the incorrect period of stamps for the piece.
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
Michael your right, it could date as early as 1923 at 960K SN, I just used 1M in the search for the 1927 reference but really anywhere in that general time frame could apply. Would like to have better pics of the barrel markings, milling, etc to determine if the barrel was made up or is a factory part. Would think that for all the trouble of making up a new barrel to spec, with matting, that getting the barrel markings right would seem to be the least of the a restorers worries. But then again anythings possible.
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1892takedown said
Michael your right, it could date as early as 1923 at 960K SN, I just used 1M in the search for the 1927 reference but really anywhere in that general time frame could apply. Would like to have better pics of the barrel markings, milling, etc to determine if the barrel was made up or is a factory part. Would think that for all the trouble of making up a new barrel to spec, with matting, that getting the barrel markings right would seem to be the least of the a restorers worries. But then again anythings possible.
I have seen a few barrels on Turnbull 1892’s that are incorrect but then again if he/they are using Madis as a resource then that can be a BIG problem!
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
Absolutely beautiful gun, though. Reminds me of the time I bought a 94 octagon barrel Winchester rifle via a magazine ad, I think it was, 20 years or so back. I’m pretty sure that it was made before the proof stamp came about. Anyway, I was expecting it to be factory original, and come to find out it had proof marks and the barrel address on the right side, which was not applied by the factory until 1921, maybe 1922, as I recall. I don’t remember for sure, if I actually checked the underside of the barrel, but I think I did, and it was stamped 21(?). It was really a good looking rifle, but not what I wanted, and the man was true to his word regarding the inspection period and his return policy.
That is a beauty, even for having been restored, still would love to have it. Whomever did the restoration did very well coming close to matching the color case hardening on the lever and hammer. Take it out and shoot her, let us see some targets!
Sincerely,
Maverick
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