Bert H. said
The checkering pattern on your new (old) Model 1892 is the I-pattern, and it was the standard pattern used for plain (straight) grain stocks.
I corrected my original post to reflect this. I posted straight from memory and I forgot my checkering patterns, although the pattern is obviously standard and the least extensive.
A great find! My latest acquisition. Manufactured in 1896. The photographs display all features (pistol grip, checkered “I”style, rubber shotgun butt, round barrel with button magazine, folding Globe front sight, Lyman #6 rear sight, tang sight). There still is great stuff out there!
Very nice rifle.
mrcvs said
And the front & rear sights. Thank you Clarence for properly identifying the Lyman #6 rear sight.The lack of any loss of bluing from the movement of a wedge suggests this rear sight is original to this rifle.
I like that front sight – am curious if the records for this gun specifically note any of the sights – 92’s I have owned always seem to be silent on sights – example attached.
clarence said
Burt Humphrey said
I like that front sight
So do I, but it’s been driven in backwards–the ivory should face the shooter. Lyman #5.
Wow, I didn’t know that front sight was the “sleeper” when it came to this rifle. Yes, I was aware it was uncommon, but so too is a shotgun butt, pistol grip, checkering, button magazine, etc.
So, if it’s installed backwards, it should fold down forwards instead of backwards, if properly installed?
mrcvs said
Wow, I didn’t know that front sight was the “sleeper” when it came to this rifle. Yes, I was aware it was uncommon, but so too is a shotgun butt, pistol grip, checkering, button magazine, etc.
So, if it’s installed backwards, it should fold down forwards instead of backwards, if properly installed?
It’s not really rare–the SG BP is more uncommon. The ivory post is useless if it can’t be seen by shooter.
clarence said
It’s not really rare–the SG BP is more uncommon. The ivory post is useless if it can’t be seen by shooter.
I suppose the question is should the sight fold rearwards, as it does, or forwards? When folded down, the ivory post is visible from both sides. When up, the ivory post touches the front side of the barrel so as to not be visible at all, and you have the round globe with a post. Which makes more sense to me as the visible folded down front ivory bead might be confusing when firing using the elevated globe sight and post.
Thoughts?
See attached photographs.
mrcvs said
And so much for the theory of visible ivory when using the globe sight. I see this is visible as a small dot when folded up. See repeated photograph.
That white dot is merely the butt end of the ivory post. Maybe it was Lyman’s idea that if the top of the post was damaged, it could be pushed up higher through that hole, though the ivory is so tightly fitted into its socket that I’m skeptical it could be done without damage to the ivory. Actually, I tried doing that once–the ivory wouldn’t budge.
So, is it correct as is or backwards? I would think it is correct and the globe sight folds backwards, just like a tang sight. IIRC, Globe sights fold backwards. I have two Model 1873 rifles in which they fold backwards, again IIRC. Neither are readily accessible at this time.
mrcvs said
So, is it correct as is or backwards? I would think it is correct and the globe sight folds backwards, just like a tang sight. IIRC, Globe sights fold backwards. I have two Model 1873 rifles in which they fold backwards, again IIRC. Neither are readily accessible at this time.
Ian,
The front sight is currently installed backwards on your Model 1892, and any other gun if it folds to the rear. The Beach Combination and Lyman No. 5 Combination sights were designed to fold towards the muzzle.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
tim tomlinson said
Have seen them installed backwards, and the current owners were happy and sure that was correct.
Rather amazing those owners wouldn’t instinctively grasp, without instruction, that the aiming point of the sight should be facing toward the shooter, not the target.
Nice looking 92. The ivory is up too high. It should be flush with the metal tit. That is there to protect the ivory from getting broken off.
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
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