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Well I bit the bullet , it now lives at My house
W.A.C.A. life member, Marlin Collectors Assn. charter and life member, C,S.S.A. member and general gun nut.
Bob, Can You tell Me how many ’73, 15″ trappers were made , if I’m doing the math properly on Madis’ estimates , about 162 trappers, all lengths shorter than 20″ were made . Then if 10% were 32 cal. and only a portion being 15″ that would be a rare gun then to be nickle plated even more special. Interesting gun to say the least.
W.A.C.A. life member, Marlin Collectors Assn. charter and life member, C,S.S.A. member and general gun nut.
Thank You Tim it took a lot of thought , and money, lol
W.A.C.A. life member, Marlin Collectors Assn. charter and life member, C,S.S.A. member and general gun nut.
Henry Mero said
Bob, Can You tell Me how many ’73, 15″ trappers were made , if I’m doing the math properly on Madis’ estimates , about 162 trappers, all lengths shorter than 20″ were made . Then if 10% were 32 cal. and only a portion being 15″ that would be a rare gun then to be nickle plated even more special. Interesting gun to say the least.
I will strongly recommend against putting very much of your in faith in Madis’ numbers…
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Henry Mero said
Bob, Can You tell Me how many ’73, 15″ trappers were made , if I’m doing the math properly on Madis’ estimates , about 162 trappers, all lengths shorter than 20″ were made . Then if 10% were 32 cal. and only a portion being 15″ that would be a rare gun then to be nickle plated even more special. Interesting gun to say the least.
I have 188 trappers in my survey and of them 70 have 15″ barrels and of them only 4 in 32 caliber and only 2 with nickel.
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
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Bert H. said
I will strongly recommend against putting very much of your faith in Madis’ numbers…
Have to agree with Bert.
RickC
Oh I agree with Bert, I think I’ve seen about that many ’73 trappers, and I know I haven’t seen them all and thank You Bob for Your info. I guess it would be fair to say this is a rare ’73. Bob What is the majority of the other 118 in Your survey, barrel length that is.
W.A.C.A. life member, Marlin Collectors Assn. charter and life member, C,S.S.A. member and general gun nut.
15″ is the most common barrel length in the trappers. There are 53 with 16″, 50 with 17″, 5 with 18″ and 10 with 14″
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
Email: [email protected]
1873man said
15″ is the most common barrel length in the trappers. There are 53 with 16″, 50 with 17″, 5 with 18″ and 10 with 14″Bob
I believe if I recall correctly they made some in 12 inch SRCs. I don’t know where I saw it. But if I recall it was Madis that wrote on the 12 inches. Probably not in his Winchester Book, but possibly in the Collector Magazine. Pretty sure it was in the 73 and not the 92.
If I find it, I’ll let you know.
Sincerely,
Maverick
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I recall there were maybe four M92 trappers with 12 inch barrels? I recall Merz had one. I think it was out of the James Huntley collection. Anyone recall his collection of ’92 trappers and short rifles?
Saw it displayed in Denver several yeas ago. Awesome collection. As I remember, he had 4 with 12″ barrels. First time I had ever seen a 12″. Love at first sight. For those of you who seem to know it all and knock George Madis, remember one thing, he was out there doing the research, when you were all crapping in your diapers. He did the best he could, in that day and age. You will never have as much fun as he did in his HANDS ON research.
win4575 said
Saw it displayed in Denver several yeas ago. Awesome collection. As I remember, he had 4 with 12″ barrels. First time I had ever seen a 12″. Love at first sight. For those of you who seem to know it all and knock George Madis, remember one thing, he was out there doing the research, when you were all crapping in your diapers. He did the best he could, in that day and age. You will never have as much fun as he did in his HANDS ON research.
Yeah, Huntley’s 12 inch M1892 .44-40 SRC I saw was in very very nice condition. Not mint, but still, it was nice. And yes, love at first sight sums up my reaction as well. I never forgot that piece, and I’m sure I never will.
FYI – good article by Jim Huntley on 1892 trapper carbines in the Spring 1986 Collector (reprinted in Winter 2009). Members can access and read on this site – 3 pages and worth the time. Many, many years ago Tommy Rholes told me when it comes to studying old Winchesters don’t believe everything you read, don’t believe everything you hear and you don’t have to necessarily believe everything you see, but try to read, hear and see as much as you can.
Sounds like Tommy. Very sound advice. Many years ago, several of us, including George Madis, stayed at Jim Gordon’s ranch in Grant, Colorado. George told me that he had handled hundreds of Winchesters in his career, but still didn’t consider himself an expert. He would say ” I’m still learning”.
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