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April 8, 2024 - 10:28 pm
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Of course the way hunting seasons are going, It’ll be a rich man’s sport. 

If you ain’t driving a Hummer, Mercedes G, or the like, don’t you dare pretend to be a quail hunter!

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LOL!

I had a friend that once won a “Guided Quail Hunt”. Well if was not far from us in Southern Arkansas. They had some Mexican farm hands in the top of a grain silo chunking the quail out of the top of the silo. Here my buddy brought his Remington 870 and is hitting everything with it. While these other fellows are running around with the double barrels and Berettas changing their chokes trying to figure out how to hit the quail. He said it was the biggest racket he’d ever seen.

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Maverick said:

Of course the way hunting seasons are going, It’ll be a rich man’s sport. 

Sincerely,

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Have you priced a Texas deer lease lately? 

 

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Nope. The last lease I was on was over 7 years ago. I decided I’d rather put my money towards buying up land to own. I’d rather hunt on 20 acres of my own land than have to share a lease with 30 other people to hunt “1,000 acres” only to be told here is your spot. There is always someone in charge that has an attitude of do what I say and not what I do on a hunting lease. 

I hunt on family land and close friends property. Or on occasion public land. Louisiana has a lot of public land, unlike Texas, but then the problem is dealing with the John Q public.  

Pricing cartridges is hard enough! Thankfully I was taught aim small miss small. It used to amaze me how many people don’t know how to shoot. Now I chop it to people having never been taught properly or never taking the time to learn to do so.

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Maverick said Louisiana has a lot of public land, unlike Texas, but then the problem is dealing with the John Q public. 

Unless you own land in Texas, or know someone who does, or have many thousands to spend on a lease, your hunting prospects are bleak.  The exotic game ranches are even more expensive; look at the price lists for various species & ask yourself how there can be sufficient demand to maintain those prices, although, evidently, there is or they wouldn’t be at those levels. 

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Texas really should up the amount of public hunting land they have. At least have more offerings around the state. If they could make a budget to build and maintain the public land like they do the public roads. There probably wouldn’t be any place better to go hunting. Of course it wouldn’t hurt my feelings if they built a border wall first, then dealt with the public land. The wall just needs a nice well made gate.

Louisiana has 1.6 million acres of state land & 1.2 million acres of federal land available for hunting. Which is more than Texas and we’re 1/6 the size.

And oddly enough a lot of people I know would prefer not to hunt public land.

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Maverick said
And oddly enough a lot of people I know would prefer not to hunt public land.

Not odd at all, quite sensible–where there is little public land, it’s bound to be overrun by the mob who can’t afford private leases.  Only remedy is enough public land to spread out the mob.  Or decrease the size of the mob by requiring the kind of proof of hunting skills & knowledge required in most European countries; “slob hunters” are almost unknown in Europe, because slobs can’t pass the exam required for a hunting license.   

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Louisiana has 1.6 million acres of state land & 1.2 million acres of federal land available for hunting. Which is more than Texas and we’re 1/6 the size.

And oddly enough a lot of people I know would prefer not to hunt public land

  

I manage ~230K of it and I don’t hunt it myself due to all the folks who do hunt and don’t handle firearms well and/or have poor hunting etiquette.  I will venture out during archery seasons and I have set aside a little land for true muzzle loaders (no “primitive weapons”).  Otherwise, I stay on my 20 acres at home. 

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I participated in public hunting in Texas for several seasons in my younger years and found it to be very well managed. Much of the land was actually privately owned, the state leased it for public hunting. I hunted as my brother’s guest on a lease after that, my mission was to help cull the deer population and curb the hog population. Many of the management practices on that lease were the same as we saw on the public hunting lands. For the resources available to them our Texas Parks and Wildlife department does an outstanding job managing the resources of the people of Texas, some are even down on the border trying to assist ICE and Texas DPS.

 

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rwsem said I manage ~230K of it and I don’t hunt it myself due to all the folks who do hunt and don’t handle firearms well and/or have poor hunting etiquette.  I will venture out during archery seasons and I have set aside a little land for true muzzle loaders (no “primitive weapons”).  Otherwise, I stay on my 20 acres at home. 

  I’m assuming you’re referring to the Fort Polk WMA?

Yeah I’m not to keen on hunting current or former military lands. Not that I would ever step on or come across anything harmful, but the potential seems to exist. Plus there are so many additional rules, you need your lawyer in your back pocket to go with you. Was watching a video on YouTube or like channel, these young guys were going “magnet fishing”. They’re cleaning up the environment and doing oh so much good cleaning things up. At least they are in their minds. Then they decide to magnet fish from a bridge from a public road in Florida. Only problem was that road goes through federal property / military used land. So they find some “Ordnance” while magnet fishing that was tossed from the bridge and decide to call the Florida state police to “properly dispose” of it. The state police calls the federal game warden. He comes out and writes a handful tickets to all three of them for multiple various laws they’ve just broken, while “cleaning up the environment”.  

I recently was working on a shooting range on the local AFB and got to talking deer hunting with the range Sargent. He got to talking shooting and I was blown away by what he was telling me about the lack of accuracy most service personnel have. I mean can’t even hit a pie plate at 20 yards inaccuracy.

So yeah I completely understand sticking to the 20 acres at home.

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Maverick said

  I’m assuming you’re referring to the Fort Polk WMA?

I recently was working on a shooting range on the local AFB and got to talking deer hunting with the range Sargent. He got to talking shooting and I was blown away by what he was telling me about the lack of accuracy most service personnel have. I mean can’t even hit a pie plate at 20 yards inaccuracy.  

Yes, (now Ft. Johnson) that’s the one.  The Sergeant wasn’t wrong.  The marksmanship skill of the average Soldier these days isn’t what it was 40 years ago when I entered the service, either.  I’m guessing due to the decline of shooting sports involvement across the entire civilian population.

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Folks,  remember the NRA was formed way back when to improve civilian marksmanship as a previous war showed the average soldier was hard put to hit a barn from the inside with doors and windows shut!  Granddad served in France in WWI.  Illinois National Guard went over, and it was plussed up by NYC kids.  He and the other farm boys could shoot, most others were doing good if they got the correct end of the cartridge started into the chamber.  According to his stories, they never got ammunition stateside to even zero their rifles.  What riflery they got was in the trenches.  Ditto on machine guns and artillery.  They were considered cannon fodder, no use spending resources when they were going to be killed so quickly.  We keep having to relearn the same old lessons.  Tim

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Thinking about it, when I was in the Army in the early 70’s we didn’t spend very much time on the shooting range.  It was really funny to watch a lot of guys try to zero their weapon at 25 meters let alone hit a silhouette at 400 meters.

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Chuck,  We have plenty of material to tell war stories about.  Many would likely bore the general members, so I won’t put them on here now.  But riflery tended to vary by units and branches.  Up until the late 70s when it became a requirement all qualify to reenlist.  I had females who were not even familiarized on rifles and all of a sudden they had to qualify!!  My First Sergeant and I sure had a time of it!  Tim

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