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1913 model 1894, needs work, is it worth it?
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December 8, 2022 - 11:12 pm
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jertex said

Great information, I’m guessing this is what I’m seeing in this pic.

 

  

Partly–the “safety” is underneath the mainspring. The pin is attached to it & should be poking out through the lower tang, unless, like I said, it’s stuck.  Remove the mainspring & you can find out what’s preventing it from working as it should.  Failure of the half-cock to hold is a different problem–maybe a worn notch in the hammer.

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On the 1894 the safety block or lock has a spring, depending on the year manufactured it will be a flat spring or a wire spring (later), either will work — that depresses the safety block/pin downward blocking the movement of the trigger (the block bears against the back side of the trigger.  When the lever is closed, it bears against the pin that protrudes through the lower tang–in doing so, raises the block allowing the trigger to be pulled.   Below are examples of both types of lower tang safety springs (note the pin holding both safety blocks in the lower tangs shown are removed removed, probably needed them for something else). 

 

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Sounds like you may be missing the safety block, spring, or its just full of crud not allowing it to work.  Could also be you have a damaged trigger or hammer. 

Regarding the mainspring, it is attached through the lower tang from the outside, the mainspring screw hole is not threaded, the mainspring is. 

 

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Thanks, CH, really helpful to see those pics, I can see the wire spring sticking up, and it appears to me that it’s stuck in the up position. Judging from the rest of the rifle, I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s being held up by a bunch of crud. I ordered a replacement main spring and screws and they came in yesterday. I will do a more complete take down of the rifle tomorrow since I’m replacing the mainspring anyway. I suspect I have a combination of problems since the hammer will also drop from the half-cock position with a pull of the trigger. I suspect that it’s a hammer problem, but I’ll know more tomorrow.

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jertex said I suspect I have a combination of problems since the hammer will also drop from the half-cock position with a pull of the trigger. I suspect that it’s a hammer problem, but I’ll know more tomorrow.
  

Not how it’s supposed to work, but not a huge problem either, as the fall of the hammer from half-cock lacks enough force to set off the primer.  And you wouldn’t be pulling the trigger in that position anyway, except to test it.  I wouldn’t replace the hammer unless you’re planning to do one hell of a lot of shooting with this gun.  Now if the hammer slips from the full-cock position when you push on it, that would be cause for replacing it.

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clarence said

jertex said I suspect I have a combination of problems since the hammer will also drop from the half-cock position with a pull of the trigger. I suspect that it’s a hammer problem, but I’ll know more tomorrow.

  

Not how it’s supposed to work, but not a huge problem either, as the fall of the hammer from half-cock lacks enough force to set off the primer. 

  

Try standing in front of the muzzle and testing that theory Wink.  Why go off “half-cocked”, fix it. 

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