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1894 large loop lever repair/modification
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April 10, 2022 - 3:46 pm

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New to this group and Winchester ownership. I recently purchased a ’94 takedown model, in .30-30. I know, it’s not made by Winchester, but they claim it’s made to specs. My big ham-hands don’t fit the finger lever very well, so I bought a large loop lever from Numrich. Numrich listed it as fitting all post 64 models, but after I swapped them out, the lifter wouldn’t “lift”. I swapped them back, and the lifter works again. I cannot see any visible variations between the two that might cause this. Any suggestions or recommendations are welcome.

Thanks in advance, Karl, 68 coupe

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April 10, 2022 - 7:41 pm

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Would you care to enlighten us as to what exactly you are working on? Almost all reproduction parts require some level of fitting and if the gun you’re trying to install it into is not a Winchester all bets are off. My only suggestion is to buy one of the many post-64’s with the big loop already installed.

 

Mike

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April 11, 2022 - 1:12 am
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Can’t be of much help, if you don’t tell us what brand (model) you bought.

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April 11, 2022 - 1:24 am

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Thanks for the replies. It’s a Winchester Model ’94 takedown model. purchased new-in-the-box, last year (2021). My research tells me that it was made in Japan, under license, and that Winchester Repeating Arms is defunct. That’s all I meant in the OP. I am new to lever action rifles, and don’t want to ruin a perfectly functioning firearm by trying to change something that “ain’t broke”. I own a number of more modern design firearms and work on them without problems.

All suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Karl, 68coupe

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April 18, 2022 - 12:14 am

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I have decided to take it to the source. I emailed Winchester to ask for the part number and a price, if they have it in stock, or even sell one to me. At the very least they can give me a part number.

 

Karl, 68 coupe

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April 18, 2022 - 2:02 am

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Karl Boos said
I have decided to take it to the source. I emailed Winchester to ask for the part number and a price, if they have it in stock, or even sell one to me. At the very least they can give me a part number.

 

Karl, 68 coupe  

Do keep us posted, Karl.  I’m curious as to what they have to say, since I might like to try the same mod on one of my newer ’94s.

 

Frank

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April 18, 2022 - 2:03 am

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Good call, Karl. Miroku makes an excellent firearm but they differ a bit from the guns we call Winchester. You may want to check out Brownell’s site. Maybe Midway. Both sites have good descriptions and have a chat function that allows you to ask questions about applicability. 

Be very careful experimenting with lever guns. Most of us started with one. Trust me, that’s all it takes! Wink

 

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June 11, 2022 - 2:50 pm

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Soooo, I “finally” got a response from Winchester. The large loop isn’t offered as a spare part for the model that I have. I now have two large loop levers that don’t work. HOWEVER, I have studied the action with a boresight and found that the little “notch” on the top of the lever near the bolt is what allows the additional travel needed to make the carrier/lifter thingy to function. Visibly, it is the ONLY difference between the large loops I have and the one from the rifle, aside from the actual loop. I’m going to use my Dremel to make the “notch” in one of the large loops levers to see if it works.

Mike, the same holds true for so many things, Lays potato chips, Thompsons, M1 Carbines, 1911’s & air-cooled VW’s.

 

I’ll try to add photos if it works,

 

Karl

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June 12, 2022 - 4:14 am

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I see the Numrich Arms large loop lever for the Model 94 with several different part numbers.

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June 14, 2022 - 4:02 am

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I bought one of the large-loops from Numrich, the other from Homestead Parts.

The modification with the Dremel worked. I milled out a “notch” like the one in the original lever and cold-blued the work after an op-check. The large-loop is installed and op-checks 4.0 with snap caps. Off to the range on Wednesday with live ammo. The lever on the left is the original, center is an unmodified large-loop, right is the modified, now in the rifle.

 

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Below is the project rifle.

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Karl

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June 14, 2022 - 4:04 am

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How does one add photos? My first attempt failed miserably.

Karl

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June 14, 2022 - 11:20 pm

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Karl Boos said
How does one add photos? My first attempt failed miserably.

Karl  

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