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April 15, 2005
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Chuck said
Bert, what is up with the two different forends around the band area? I mean the bottom one has the piece of metal in the wood.
Chuck,
That strip of steel is a “spring clip”, and it is what retains the barrel band. That style of stock was used on the 2nd variation (high-wall) Winder Muskets.
The 3rd variation Government contract Winder Muskets used a transverse band screw to retain the barrel band. The stock on the upper Winder Musket in your picture has been cut down.
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Thanks Bert. The spring clip is what I was wondering about. The other side of the stock has a small hole in the wood too.
April 15, 2005
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TXGunNut said
Bert H. said
Mike,
An original 3rd variation “U S” ordnance marked Winder Musket that is in decent (unaltered) condition is a $2K+ gun these days. Consider that it is not just the “Winchester” collectors that are looking for them, as the “Military” collectors also compete for them.
Bert
Bert-
My “US” 3rd variation doesn’t quite make the 80% cut because of bluing loss on the receiver but is original. The Cabela’s in Centerville, OH had it for $850 in early 2018 and they were nice enough to box it up and ship it to me. For some reason I thought they could still be had for $1500 or less, interest may be a little less around these parts. Apparently I should keep a lookout for underpriced specimens and bring them up to Cody where they are more appreciated.
Mike
Mike,
If you Winder Musket is ordnance marked, you can just about double your $$$ on it. Yes, you should most definitely keep your eyes open for any that are underpriced… I will even provide the Cash if needed so that you can acquire them!
Your Buddy Santa Bert
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November 7, 2015
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Merry Christmas, Bert! Figured we’d see that photo again and it certainly brightened my day. My example is indeed martially marked ( or as Cabela’s described; “marshal”) but until or unless a better example comes along it’s not going anywhere.
Thanks for the offer of operating capital, cash is a bit scarce right now considering I’m in the ice business and getting ready to retire from my day job!
Mike
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