Avatar

Please consider registering
guest

Register | Lost password?
Advanced Search

— Forum Scope —






— Match —





— Forum Options —





Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters




sp_Feed Topic RSS sp_Print sp_TopicIcon
Winchester Proof Stamp
April 2, 2019
2:10 pm
Avatar
Southeast Oregon
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 156
Member Since:
November 27, 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Just in case there is any question as to whether there are proof stamps out there available to the fakers, here's an original that is drawing quite a bit of interest on EBAY:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/WINCHESTER-PROOF-MARK-ORIGINAL-FROM-WINCHESTER-PLANT-NEW-HAVEN/293021483913?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D56110%26meid%3Dd7072eea86284213864c26d4351d2a8c%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D293021483913%26itm%3D293021483913&_trksid=p2481888.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3A17b620e5-554f-11e9-951f-74dbd1800cde%7Cparentrq%3Ade561f6f1690ac88dadaa4f2ffe2dbcd%7Ciid%3A1

I'd like to believe it'll be bought by a collector of Winchester memorabilia rather than someone who will use it for fakery, but...

April 2, 2019
2:20 pm
Avatar
Wisconsin
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 3935
Member Since:
May 2, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

My impression of that stamp is its not a stamp used in the factory. Most all the tools used in the factory had markings on them to identify the engraver that made them so if they needed to be repaired they know who to return it to and they would mark what the tool is on the side so it could be identified while laying in a drawer or on a bench. Maybe be there is other marking on it but the seller didn't show it but I think the seller would of since it would boost its price.

Bob

WACA Life Member---
NRA Life Member----
Cody Firearms member since 1991

73_86cutaway.jpg

Email: bob.1873man@gmail.com

April 2, 2019
2:44 pm
Avatar
Southeast Oregon
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 156
Member Since:
November 27, 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Good eye, you're probably right.  This may have been one made with the intent to fake.  With all the bidders and watchers, it looks like there is a lot of interest in it.  It may live on to help produce more of the forgeries those of us collectors abhor. 

April 2, 2019
4:12 pm
Avatar
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 131
Member Since:
August 27, 2014
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Wallingford, CT is only 14 miles from New Haven. May lend some credibility to the sellers story that he obtained the stamp from a friend who worked in the factory.

April 2, 2019
4:31 pm
Avatar
Wisconsin
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 3935
Member Since:
May 2, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

This is what I normally see with Winchester tools. These are the stamps for the caliber on the bottom of the 73 elevator

Bob

IMG_20160827_173317768.jpgImage EnlargerP4060003.JPGImage Enlarger

sp_PlupAttachments Attachments

WACA Life Member---
NRA Life Member----
Cody Firearms member since 1991

73_86cutaway.jpg

Email: bob.1873man@gmail.com

April 4, 2019
1:12 am
Avatar
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 1416
Member Since:
May 23, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Yeah that fake Proof Stamp has been floating around for a few years now. Along with the fake stock cartouche stamp seen on M1 Carbines and the like.

Sincerely,

Maverick

WACA #8783 - Checkout my Reloading Tool Survey!

April 5, 2019
2:13 am
Avatar
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 936
Member Since:
November 1, 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Maverick said
Yeah that fake Proof Stamp has been floating around for a few years now. Along with the fake stock cartouche stamp seen on M1 Carbines and the like.
  

I don't believe there's ANY cartouche stamp applicable to '03 Springfields & Garands that hasn't been faked.  Can't stop them from being trafficked in the faker's underworld, but advertising them openly ought to be classified as mail fraud.

Forum Timezone: UTC 0

Most Users Ever Online: 628

Currently Online:
46 Guest(s)

Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)


Forum Stats:

Groups: 1

Forums: 16

Topics: 6375

Posts: 51133


Member Stats:

Guest Posters: 851

Members: 8540

Moderators: 4

Admins: 3


Top Posters:

1873man: 3935

twobit: 2410

TXGunNut: 2062

Maverick: 1416

Big Larry: 1352

JWA: 1236

Wincacher: 1180

Brad Dunbar: 1055

clarence: 936

1892takedown: 838

Navigation