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Winchester Pine Boards Penetrattion Tests?
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Bert H.
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With continuous bad weather and still waiting on bullets for reloading, ive been re-reading. And was just reading Wayn Van Zwoll’s article of Townsend Whelen from 2023 Sporting Classics Magazine.  
He said that on a later Pack Trip into BC, 1906 I believe,  one rifle he took was a Winchester 1885 in 30-40 Krag.
Id kept a link on my phone of an old OL Article titled “Whelen’s 10 Favorite Big Game Cartridges”.  For Elk he said nothing was better than the 30-40 Krag, insisting on the 220gr bullet, that nothing he’d seen penetrating straighter & deeper! Mentioned somewhere in this article? the 180gr 30-40 being also very good, all around effectiveness! But if only one rifle & cartridge he had to settle for, in both articles, one by WVZ, even late in his life, he still would grab his Springfield 06! I know he loved the 180gr in it i think most, by memory. 
  

I just so happen to agree with Townsend Whelen 110% in regard to the 30-40 Krag and the 220-gr bullets.  It will cleanly and efficiently take down big tough game animals with ease.  I load mine (for my Single Shot high-wall rifles) with 39.0 grains of IMR 4064… it is slightly hotter than the old original factory load, but it shoots lights out to my capabilities.

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If the 30 40 Krag is great with 220 grain bullets, wouldn’t the 30 06 shooting 220 grain bullets several hundred fps be even better?

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wolfbait said
If the 30 40 Krag is great with 220 grain bullets, wouldn’t the 30 06 shooting 220 grain bullets several hundred fps be even better?
  

Not necessarily.  While increased velocity improves down range performance, it does not necessarily improve the near range terminal performance.  With the higher velocity, the odds of a shooting the bullet completely through the animal are greatly increased, thereby muting the “knock-down” properties of the round. 

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Actually, shooting the same bullet at 300 fps higher velocity increases the expansion and effectiveness of the bullet, not the penetration. At all ranges.

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wolfbait said
Actually, shooting the same bullet at 300 fps higher velocity increases the expansion and effectiveness of the bullet, not the penetration. At all ranges.
  

The Winchester testing proved this not to be true.  The 30/40 with a 220 grain bullet at 1960 fps penetrated 58 pine boards.  The .30 U.S. Govt. 06 with a 220 grain bullet at 2250 fps penetrated 72 boards.  It penetrated more boards than any other cartridge on their list.

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