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I’ve been hearing a lot about handguns, but what’s in store for Winchester repeating rifles?

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Rick can tell us more, but the same thing would be happening here without the 2A.  Imagine, if you can, a national “leader” SO contemptibly pathetic he makes Pig-Eyes look good! 

And by the way, Steve, folks who are only concerned about “Winchester repeating rifles” (which does not include you, but does include some here, I suspect) have got their heads buried in the sand.

 
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In Canada handguns will be no longer be sold after this October. And I’m sure it’s only a matter of time before handguns are 100% illegal to own. 
On the non restricted long gun front, as it reads, all long guns will have a 5 shot magazine capacity, regardless of calibre or configuration. Not ideal for the winchester lever collector or owner unless button mag and 95’s are your thing. 
No collectors I know in Canada will comply with permanently altering their tube mag Winchester, especially high condition collector grade. 
Further clarification is needed and it’s also been brought up that the Liberal(Democrat) govt is using a section of parliamentary procedure that won’t allow the next ruling govt or party to change this law. 

Not a great day or times ahead for honest hard working law abiding firearm enthusiast in Canada. I would say more on what I and two + million legal gun owners in Canada think about this Liberal attack but you would question my moral compass on my comments. 

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RickC said I would say more on what I and two + million legal gun owners in Canada think about this Liberal attack but you would question my moral compass on my comments. 

I wouldn’t, nor any other members here, I’m sure.  Switch on TV news in this country for a few min., & you’ll soon find out (assuming you’re not a blithering idiot) that the media & fed gov’t regard legal gun owners as “persona non grata.”  Meanwhile, for gang-bangers in this state & others, it’s “no bail” & free needle exchange.

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The short answer is, I just will not comply and when they come for My firearms they’ll have to take Me first, and there WILL BE a fight. The prospect of going to jail when Your 74 is not as daunting as it was 30-40 years ago. Regardless it’s happening in both countries, the U.S. is just as bad. 15 years ago I had a Florida address, a Florida drivers license, a concealed / carry permit and several “collector ” firearms there. After 911 when the Homeland Security got some teeth they would not renew any licenses for resident aliens and it got nearly impossible to trade at the gun shows across the country so I gave up and sold My place in Florida and pretty much quit displaying at the U.S. gun shows. It is a terrible shame how the gov’t is racting  to the bad guys (with guns ) and what that reaction has done to the (Good Guys with guns). I think everyone understands the need for common sense (firearms) laws , but the common sense part is not happening. If They got the legit firearms owners involved when making up new laws I think there could be some acceptable balance but all They’re doing right now is reacting to the emotions of the victims, My thoughts and prayers go with Them, without the thought of any consequinces to the rest of the law abiding folks. Right now They are toughening gun laws for the good guys and lightening the penalties for the bad guys. We had a stabbing murder in London about a month ago, within 10 days the guy is out walking around, how the hell is that common sense enforcement. Anyway enough of My rant. The short is I will keep on doing what I’ve been doing for the past 55 years or so. 

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Henry Mero said We had a stabbing murder in London about a month ago, within 10 days the guy is out walking around, how the hell is that common sense enforcement.
  

It’s what progressives call “protecting their constituents.”  Ditto for restoring voting rights to felons. 

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Rick can tell us more, but the same thing would be happening here without the 2A.  Imagine, if you can, a national “leader” SO contemptibly pathetic he makes Pig-Eyes look good! 

And by the way, Steve, folks who are only concerned about “Winchester repeating rifles” (which does not include you, but does include some here, I suspect) have got their heads buried in the sand.

Clarence – I am concerned about more than just Winchesters, but I thought I would make my question as relevant to this site as I could.  Thanks to those that replied.  
 

  

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steve004 said 

Clarence – I am concerned about more than just Winchesters, but I thought I would make my question as relevant to this site as I could. 

Steve, I know very well you are.  But there are some folks who think “it’s the other fellow’s ox who’s being gored, not mine.”  But when the “other fellow” has been disposed of, then it may become your turn.  What’s going on in Canada, not to mention the gun-hater’s “paradises” of Australia & New Zealand, prove this.

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The 1996 firearms act was introduced hear after the port arther shootup in Tasmania, in 1994.

what that prity much entailed in short was

1 registration of all firearms.

2 apply and pay $30 for a permit to purchase firearm.

3 class of firearms( A) Rimfire rifle only, and shotgun. no semi auto’s.(B) centerfire rifle only, no semi auto’s (C) Semiauto’s rifle only. (restricted rifle)

4 your class of firearm must match the class of Licence 

5 Collectors licence including pistols antique and modern, but no ammo allowed and shooting not allowed.

some of the states vary with collecting antique’s such as rifle and handgun, antique is pre 1900, cap and ball no licence required, some states require a antique licence. 

6 if the firearm is obsolete ammo, no licence or rego needed,

thats prity much it, its not as bad as the foreign media says.

BUT THE FAR LEFT AND THE GREEN AGENDA, HAVE OTHER PLANS, and it wont supprise me with a labour gov in power now, we could follow Canada.

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to give an example of what we have and sell, below is a link to a major Australian gun web site.

https://usedguns.com.au/

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Tony. R said
The 1996 firearms act was introduced hear after the port arther shootup in Tasmania, in 1994.

what that prity much entailed in short was

1 registration of all firearms.

2 apply and pay $30 for a permit to purchase firearm.

3 class of firearms( A) Rimfire rifle only, and shotgun. no semi auto’s.(B) centerfire rifle only, no semi auto’s (C) Semiauto’s rifle only. (restricted rifle)

4 your class of firearm must match the class of Licence 

5 Collectors licence including pistols antique and modern, but no ammo allowed and shooting not allowed.

some of the states vary with collecting antique’s such as rifle and handgun, antique is pre 1900, cap and ball no licence required, some states require a antique licence. 

6 if the firearm is obsolete ammo, no licence or rego needed,

thats prity much it, its not as bad as the foreign media says.

BUT THE FAR LEFT AND THE GREEN AGENDA, HAVE OTHER PLANS, and it wont supprise me with a labour gov in power now, we could follow Canada.

regards

tony

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to give an example of what we have and sell, below is a link to a major Australian gun web site.

https://usedguns.com.au/

  

Tony –  Thanks for posting the link – I enjoyed looking through it.

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Tony. R said
thats prity much it, its not as bad as the foreign media says.

  

It’s bad enough, if the most popular type of shotgun, semi-autos, are on the “restricted” list.  One of the reasons for that popularity is cost–costs more to make a good double than an autoloader. 

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There was a time when “Gun Ownership and the Shooting Sports” were as Canadian as Hockey, but that is no longer the case.

The Agenda of our Current Government is THE ELIMINATION OF PRIVATE FIREARMS OWNERSHIP AND POSSESSION IN CANADA.

The writing is on the wall and this will be accomplished piece by piece in the fullness of time.

For the “Firearms Community” this is death by a thousand cuts.

Of course we will be “grandfathered in” and allowed to keep what we have. But when we pass-on the Guns will have to be turned in.

The New Firearms Laws have been described as “EVERGREEN LEGISLATION” and the end result is A GUN FREE STATE.

Any future Conservative Government might reverse some of this but they never reverse all of it – and they never have.

I have closely followed the changing Firearms Laws in this Country for 50 years, and it has never been worse.

AND, I don’t like this anymore than anyone else, but ignoring the truth doesn’t make it go away.

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David McNab said
There was a time when “Gun Ownership and the Shooting Sports” were as Canadian as Hockey, but that is no longer the case.

  

There was a time when this country was called “a nation of riflemen.”  Now it’s a nation of dopers, perverts & weaklings who “can’t cope.”

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It’s simply changing the terminology from “Legal gun ownership” to “Illegal gun ownership” and they define what is “legal”.  If they make me a “criminal” I must react in kind.  Not my choice!  Having served this country and pledged to protect the country against “all enemies, both foreign and domestic”, I will. RDB

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 Having served this country and pledged to protect the country against “all enemies, both foreign and domestic”, I will. RDB

  

Roger,  the only personal “enemies” I have are ALL domestic.  A terrorist org might do me harm if I traveled to their country, but I’m certainly not fool enough to do that.  Whatever might be the evil intentions of other foreign entities, they have no power to do me wrong so long as I stay the hell out of their countries.  The power to do me wrong resides ENTIRELY in D.C. & my state capital, which has just enacted a Cally-style microstamping requirement.  (God, I hope the gun makers don’t cave to it!)  Worse, a license will now be required to buy ANY semi-auto rifle!

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rogertherelic said

 Having served this country and pledged to protect the country against “all enemies, both foreign and domestic”, I will. RDB

  

Roger,  the only personal “enemies” I have are ALL domestic.  A terrorist org might do me harm if I traveled to their country, but I’m certainly not fool enough to do that.  Whatever might be the evil intentions of other foreign entities, they have no power to do me wrong so long as I stay the hell out of their countries.  The power to do me wrong resides ENTIRELY in D.C. & my state capital, which has just enacted a Cally-style microstamping requirement.  (God, I hope the gun makers don’t cave to it!)  Worse, a license will now be required to buy ANY semi-auto rifle!

  

Is that just for Center-Fire or are 10/22’s Etc. included ?

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David McNab said

 

Is that just for Center-Fire or are 10/22’s Etc. included ?

  

Not clear yet, as the left-wing fanatics who whipped this up after THREE’S DAY’S deliberation never know what they’re talking about.  But a 10/22 has a detachable mag, & extended mags are made for it.  Gov. is already running a TV ad boasting how she’s made it possible to track the “bullets” used by criminals.  Just hope the gun-makers won’t cave, but if even one does, they probably all will.  I’m already suspicious of Glock’s intentions, as it’s foreign-owned; no 2A in Austria.

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