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I was wondering about Winchester Bob’s waiting list. His site says 2-3 weeks but the 15th of this month will be five months I’ve been waiting for my parts. Is this normal? Thanks for any info.
I didnt’ even try to send anything to him. I called and he told me he was booked until November…..i think he just wanted me off the phone…..And i need double set trigger work done!
Manuel said
I didnt’ even try to send anything to him. I called and he told me he was booked until November…..i think he just wanted me off the phone…..And i need double set trigger work done!
Yeah, I called awhile back and he was pretty clipped. Almost rude and I was trying to be pretty nice.
[email protected] saidYeah, I called awhile back and he was pretty clipped. Almost rude and I was trying to be pretty nice.
Very disappointing to hear, as I’ve often recommended Bob to others. No excuse for rudeness, but imagine how many similar calls he must be answering every day. And he should immediately change that 2-3 wk estimate to something like “as long as it takes.” But he & many other owners of shops of all kinds are coping with over two yrs of the Biden policy of paying people NOT to work, a prohibition on evictions for non-payment of rent, expanded welfare benefits, & other disincentives to work.
clarence said
Very disappointing to hear, as I’ve often recommended Bob to others. No excuse for rudeness, but imagine how many similar calls he must be answering every day. And he should immediately change that 2-3 wk estimate to something like “as long as it takes.” But he & many other owners of shops of all kinds are coping with over two yrs of the Biden policy of paying people NOT to work, a prohibition on evictions for non-payment of rent, expanded welfare benefits, & other disincentives to work.
Wow….. this paragraph seems to be written from Argentina… we send you some Peronism it seems .-
Workers are not available for example for the grape harvest … they prefer to collect the subsidy before working
This country was destroyed since Peronism was created in politics
Greetings from La Pampa – Argentina
jose luis said
clarence said
Very disappointing to hear, as I’ve often recommended Bob to others. No excuse for rudeness, but imagine how many similar calls he must be answering every day. And he should immediately change that 2-3 wk estimate to something like “as long as it takes.” But he & many other owners of shops of all kinds are coping with over two yrs of the Biden policy of paying people NOT to work, a prohibition on evictions for non-payment of rent, expanded welfare benefits, & other disincentives to work.
Wow….. this paragraph seems to be written from Argentina… we send you some Peronism it seems .-
Workers are not available for example for the grape harvest … they prefer to collect the subsidy before working
This country was destroyed since Peronism was created in politics
Greetings from La Pampa – Argentina
Jose, what you have in your country is Bidenism by another name!
November 7, 2015
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I’ve learned to avoid calling gunsmiths. Often there are machines running and quite likely they view phone calls as interruptions while doing what may be delicate or precision work. Bottom line, when they’re talking on the phone they’re not working on your gun or anyone else’s. I’ve noticed we’re running out of skilled gunsmiths. The artisans who built my custom guns are long gone and the guy who does my repairs is a heartbeat away from joining them. If I need work done I’ll drop it off and wait for his call. Quality work is seldom fast.
Mike
TXGunNut said
I’ve learned to avoid calling gunsmiths. Often there are machines running and quite likely they view phone calls as interruptions while doing what may be delicate or precision work. Bottom line, when they’re talking on the phone they’re not working on your gun or anyone else’s.
Of course! Except maybe at night when they’re probably out of the shop! But I apply that principle (“Don’t be a thoughtless AH!”) to anybody who works with their hands. If I want to talk to my auto mechanic, I drive to his shop & wait till he’s free.
On the other hand, since the “cell” revolution (which I have yet to join), few people answer their phones anyway, so you HAVE to leave a message if you call, hoping that it won’t be erased inadvertently. If Bob is answering his calls as they’re received, that’s actually quite an anomaly.
clarence said
TXGunNut said
I’ve learned to avoid calling gunsmiths. Often there are machines running and quite likely they view phone calls as interruptions while doing what may be delicate or precision work. Bottom line, when they’re talking on the phone they’re not working on your gun or anyone else’s.
Of course! Except maybe at night when they’re probably out of the shop! But I apply that principle (“Don’t be a thoughtless AH!”) to anybody who works with their hands. If I want to talk to my auto mechanic, I drive to his shop & wait till he’s free.
On the other hand, since the “cell” revolution (which I have yet to join), few people answer their phones anyway, so you HAVE to leave a message if you call, hoping that it won’t be erased inadvertently. If Bob is answering his calls as they’re received, that’s actually quite an anomaly.
Drive to his shop….. what a novel idea. His shop is 3,188 miles from my house. I wasn’t an AH as you commented but very nice and respectful. I simply asked for an update on a part that on his site stated a couple weeks waiting time and I waited months before even bothering him. Part of my concern was to make sure he was even still living and I hadn’t pissed away my money.
[email protected] said
Drive to his shop….. what a novel idea. His shop is 3,188 miles from my house. I wasn’t an AH as you commented but very nice and respectful. I simply asked for an update on a part that on his site stated a couple weeks waiting time and I waited months before even bothering him. Part of my concern was to make sure he was even still living and I hadn’t pissed away my money.
Not an AH, but not thinking clearly at all if you thought a comment about a local shop could possibly apply to your particular situation with Bob. He may not be to blame for failing to deliver what he promised if he’s lost workers, but he (& everyone else in a similar situation) should make clear to new customers that delivery time can’t be predicted. I’ve been in exactly the same predicament too many times to count, when craftsmen of various kinds made commitments they couldn’t keep; not only do you not get whatever you were waiting on, but you’ve been deprived of the opportunity of looking for someone else to do the same job.
He’s probably waiting on finding and buying a “Donor” Winchester to part out to supply his demand list. Does anyone know if he actually makes these parts as newly manufactured?
Sincerely,
Maverick
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The parts that I have bought from Winchester Bob are brand new manufacture.
Chuck said
The parts that I have bought from Winchester Bob are brand new manufacture.
Well then he must make limited runs of them. And/Or he’s subcontracting out to someone else. I mean 3 months is quite the wait, if your told two weeks.
Sincerely,
Maverick
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Maverick said
Chuck said
The parts that I have bought from Winchester Bob are brand new manufacture.
Well then he must make limited runs of them. And/Or he’s subcontracting out to someone else. I mean 3 months is quite the wait, if your told two weeks.
Sincerely,
Maverick
Yeah, it’s 5 months now soon to be 6.
I talked to Bob a couple weeks ago. He is on vacation until sometime in Sept. He told me the date but I forget. I did not talk to him about any parts that are currently out of stock. The ones I want are in stock.
So if a part says “out” does that mean he will make it again at some point? I need an 1876 extractor.
Is it worth emailing him, or will that just annoy him?
I call myself a collector as it sounds better than hoarder
He repaired a double set trigger for me 2 years ago.
Not quick service, but it was repaired.
Jim
Life Member WACA & NRA
Jim McKee said
Not quick service, but it was repaired.Jim
Sad to say, but today, that’s the best we can hope for. I’ve been waiting close to two yrs for a checkering job on a custom stock; and I’ve known the stocker personally for 40+ yrs.
Up Front: Bob Knapp is a good friend.
Bottom line is that he makes all the parts in his shop; and he does it in batches, so when he runs mag plug screws or toggle links, he machines them in batches of hundreds if not thousands. Bob does not sell used parts.
Bob is also a “one man band”, he no longer has workers; that had a significant impact on production. Also keep in mind that he has customers that order $20 – $30,000 yearly. I suspect those customers have priority.
And just like any other buisness, Bob focuses on the higher selling parts, some parts he may have made 1000 of, and it’s taken him 10 years to sell them all; he may not be too keen in making them and having them sit on the shelf.
Besides, for many of these parts, Bob is the ONLY guy making them, where else are you going to go?
Respectfully
Mike Hunter
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