Mark – your video was quite a treat to find this morning.  I loved it.  I was collecting Winchesters before I collected Whitney-Kennedy’s – but not by much.  I bought a high condition M1878 Burgess .45-70 rifle (you mentioned this rifle) when I was in my very early 20’s.  I recall I beat Sam Maxwell to it by a half hour.  Shortly after that I acquired my first two Whitney-Kennedy’s – a .45-60 and a .44-40.  Just a couple weeks ago, I was at the range shooting my .38-40 Whitney-Kennedy.  It is in identical configuration (e.g. octagon barrel, full mag., rifle butt, loop lever) to the one you were shooting.  By the way, the .38-40 is quite scarce in the W-K.  The .44-40 and .45-60 were the most popular chamberings.  It’s not as scarce as the .50-95.  I think I’ve been aware of four in the past 45 years.  One other point, the chambering range of the W-K is even greater than from .38-40 to .50-95.  The W-K was also chambered in the .32-20.  

Dale Olson has a good paperback book out on the subject.  Here’s a review of it on Forgotten Weapons:

https://www.forgottenweapons.com/book-review-the-burgess-long-range-repeating-rifle-model-1878/

Dale was a great guy.  I met him over ten years ago when a small group (there is no large group) of us put on a display of 50+ very rare Burgess and Whitney-Kennedy rifles at the NRA Trophy Show in Dallas, Texas.  I’m sad to say that Dale passed away earlier this year.

Billy the Kid is reputed to have used a Whitney-Kennedy.  The rifle is on display at the Gene Autry Museum of American West in Las Vegas.  I can’t speak to the veracity of the claim. 

Oh, the other of my W-K’s I was recently shooting is unique in two ways.  First, it is the only reblued rifle I own.  Second, it was rebored from .44-40 to .45 Colt.  The bore is mint of course.  It is a fun and unique shooter.  

Lastly I will say that I do find the long lever throw odd.  In my experience, it takes some getting used to.

Thanks again Mark!  You always have very interesting subjects and I never tire of seeing those beautiful surroundings you live in.

Chuck said
Steve the Gene Autry Museum is in Los Angeles just north of Dodger Stadium.  I believe that members of the Cody Museum can show their membership card and get in free.  I haven’t been there recently.

https://theautry.org/

 

I think the local gun shop has 1 or 2 of these guns in stock?   

Chuck – 

Next time you in that gunshop, have a peek at what they have.  Whitney-Kennedy’s aren’t as scarce as say, Bullards.  With Bullards we are talking around 2800 (that all small frame, large frame and single-shots).  With W-K, the production number often quoted is 23,500.  Over the years I have encountered far more W-K’s than Bullards.  

Back on the topic of W-K, at the Rock Island auction in December, 2020 Tom Selleck had a wonderful .45-60 SRC.  I know I wasn’t the only one here who drooled over it:

https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/81/1056/whitneykennedy-lever-action-saddle-ring-carbine-in-4560

Another interesting detail is the W-K chambered all standard cartridges (I’m talking off the top of my head – all Winchester?):  .32-20, .38-40, .44-40, .40-60, .45-60, .45-75 and .50-95.  The Bullard lever repeater was chambered in mainly his own proprietary cartridges with some Winchester cartridges (e.g. .45-75 and .50-95).   

TXGunNut said
Great video on some interesting rifles, Mark. Awhile back Shrapnel was kind enough to recommend Maxwell’s “Lever Action Repeating  Rifles” when I expressed an interest in learning more about the examples he posted pics of. Very good book about the company history, firearms development and the guns themselves. Very good insight into the firearms and manufacturing business of this era. Pretty cool guns, too! Book is a bit scarce but worth finding. I’m still looking for a Whitney Kennedy Burgess rifle but have yet to find one that I felt could also be a shooter. 

Better luck next time on the yodel dogs.

 

Mike

 

  

Mike – I’ve had Maxwell’s book for several decades.  He sure knew a whole lot about Burgess and Whitney-Kennedy rifles.  I talked to him on the phone shortly before his death.  He is surely missed.  Do you have Dale Olson’s book?  It’s much easier to find.  The title of he book is the exact rifle you are looking for.

About three months ago I posted a photo here of a pair of .38-40’s – one Winchester M1892 and one Whitney-Kennedy.  I believe the Winchester is superior to the W-K in all respects, particularly in carrying.  The W-K is fairly ungainly to carry.  The hand does not fit around the receiver well.  I suppose it’s not a fair comparison as the W-K was more in competition with the Winchesters M1873 and M1876.  Even with that, a ’73 Winchester is easy to carry.  The ’76 is more of a challenge.

https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-rifles/a-pair-of-38-40s/

steve004 said

Chuck – 

Next time you in that gunshop, have a peek at what they have.

It probably won’t be until I get back from Colorado Springs.

patdaddy said
I too have a W-K .44-40, found mabey 3 years ago in a gun shop in Longview Washington. Was still behind the counter, hadnt been put out yet. I jumped on it, had read about them but never expected to see one. Came with a partial box of old ammo, with some old WW2 newspaper wadded up in the empty portion.   

Cool.  S-lever or full loop lever?

patdaddy said
Mine has the full loop lever.   

I prefer the full loop lever.  I find the S-lever awkard to operate.  However, it does have the cool factor as it is one of the features that sets the W-K apart from other rifles.