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Found out today that the Vegas show is only on Friday and Saturday.  Not on Sunday anymore due to so many dealers leaving early.

 

The next Gunslinger Auction catalog should be online tonight.

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I can imagine how frustrating it is to put on a show and have vendors leave early. I stay as long as practical and I feel like I should apologize to the people who pay admission at noon on Sunday just to watch people pack up and leave. My merchandise takes very little time to pack so there’s no reason for me to get in any hurry. It’s a bit of a sore spot with TGCA but the TGCA merch table is one of the first to start packing. 

I suppose if they’re not having to pay rent on the venue for Sunday it makes sense but I usually enjoy Sunday at a collector show. 

 

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I can imagine how frustrating it is to put on a show and have vendors leave early.

  

That’s the time to make your last minute low-ball offer!

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clarence said

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I can imagine how frustrating it is to put on a show and have vendors leave early.

  

That’s the time to make your last minute low-ball offer!

  

There have been times I would take it. Tried to make a last-hour buy at the last Cody show but the seller ignored me. Gun was already cased up anyway. 

 

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I’ve traveled with gun dealers for over 30 years.  Most major gun dealers usually won’t make a better deal on the last day of the show.  They will just take it to the next show.  Now, I’m not saying it never happens but it has been my bad luck and it never worked for me.  Their best price stayed that.  Their best price.

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Most major gun dealers usually won’t make a better deal on the last day of the show.  They will just take it to the next show.  Chuck said

  

But not ALL of them are professional gun croo…I mean, dealers, thank the Lord!  Some are, like I always was, just there to raise cash for some other purchase.  (Seldom was I able to buy a new gun without selling another.)  But even with those, don’t wait till the table’s cleared & the guns packed up! 

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clarence said

Most major gun dealers usually won’t make a better deal on the last day of the show.  They will just take it to the next show.  Chuck said

  

But not ALL of them are professional gun croo…I mean, dealers, thank the Lord!  Some are, like I always was, just there to raise cash for some other purchase.  (Seldom was I able to buy a new gun without selling another.)  But even with those, don’t wait till the table’s cleared & the guns packed up! 

  

Thank you, I’m a collector, not a dealer. If a gun is on my table it means I’ve lost interest in it and ready to enjoy something else. What I have in the gun doesn’t always matter as I bought it to enjoy and study but sometimes I’m ready to move on. 

 

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It has been my experience that if I see something I really would like to buy I always ask the seller what he would take to buy the gun.  Quite often they will lower their price.  I would revisit the gun several times if I could not buy it on the first go round.  Occasionally I could get a better price.  But here’s the thing that can happen if you bug the seller too much, they will raise the price or just not sell it to you, period.  I’ve seen this happen often enough to know it is true.  The other thing I’ve seen is the dealer will sell the gun for less money right in front of the buyer who has been pestering him.  But it works the other way too.  You may find someone that really needs to sell.  Just be careful.  All the dealers have had to deal with people that think they are going to steal a gun on the last day.

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I understand folks have different ideas on how to haggle.  As a seller if someone doesn’t like my list price they are free to make a lower offer.  I may then counter offer.  It’s been my experience that separates the “wheat from the chaff.”   In other words, BS walks but money talks.  After one offer and counter offer that is usually the end of it if the buyer is a “tire kicker.”

As a buyer I can always make a lower price offer.  I personally don’t ask a buyer “what will you take” but that may work for others.  

Your mileage may vary

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I understand folks have different ideas on how to haggle.  As a seller if someone doesn’t like my list price they are free to make a lower offer.  I may then counter offer.  It’s been my experience that separates the “wheat from the chaff.”   In other words, BS walks but money talks.  After one offer and counter offer that is usually the end of it if the buyer is a “tire kicker.”

As a buyer I can always make a lower price offer.  I personally don’t ask a buyer “what will you take” but that may work for others.  

Your mileage may vary

  

Bill, I don’t disagree.  I like to ask them first so I’m not bidding against myself.  After that if they seem open to haggling I will offer a bid.  I’m just doing my best not to get them mad on the first try.  But, once in Vegas a guy had a solid frame 1890 that he had priced at $350.  At the time the gun was easily worth $1500. When I asked for his best price he got mad.  Sold it to me for $300.  He told me he didn’t bring it to the show to just take it home.

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Chuck said All the dealers have had to deal with people that think they are going to steal a gun on the last day.
  

If the gun had been reasonably priced to start with, it probably wouldn’t remain unsold until the last day, assuming a sizable show with a good turn-out, because there are more buyers willing to pay “top dollar” lest the guy behind them beat them out of it than there are po’ folks like me looking for a good deal–a fact proven EVERY DAY on all the auction sites.

You’re right about a dealer being willing to sell to someone else for less than you had previously offered.  A dealer who refused a respectable offer I’d made on a high-grade Stevens later sold it for substantially less to another dealer, as I later discovered from a friend aware of the deal.  To me, this gun would have been one I prized for the rest of my life, whereas to both of them, mere merchandise, like shoes to a shoe salesman.  I was terribly broken-up when I heard that the first one died unexpectedly.

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Not selling a gun at a gun show only means the right buyer did not look at it.  I ‘m not talking about grossly over priced guns.  I bet most of you have never sold all your guns at a show.  Some for some reason just go home.

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Not selling a gun at a gun show only means the right buyer did not look at it.  I ‘m not talking about grossly over priced guns.  I bet most of you have never sold all your guns at a show.  Some for some reason just go home.

  

When I decided to focus on pre-64 Winchesters several years ago I sold almost every gun on my table. It was a collectors’ show and I was selling several somewhat modern guns but I quite honestly didn’t know most of the members considered it a “pre-war” show. A few collectors were a bit miffed but the show bankrolled some great acquisitions. Other shows I’ve gone home without selling a single gun. You’re right, Chuck. If the right buyer isn’t there I’ll take it home. I’m not mad at any of them.

 

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