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November 25, 2020 - 6:45 pm
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Yes, it is most likely a mistake but look at their other offerings.  Over $100 a box for each.  Glad I don’t have a 30 WCF.Confused

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Yes, it is most likely a mistake but look at their other offerings.  Over $100 a box for each.  Glad I don’t have a 30 WCF.Confused  

Well, I do have some (in Winchester, Marlin and Savage) but … fortunately I handload.  I suspect we will see empty shelves for a long time.  After seeing prices over $100 a box, once boxes of ammo land on the shelves again at regular prices (i.e. close to 1/10th of what they are now), I suspect people will be filling their shopping carts.  Which, will perpetuate the shortage.  

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steve004 said

 Which, will perpetuate the shortage.    

Why hoarding is self-perpetuating–not about meeting your reasonable needs, but preparing for “what comes next.”  With two of the most fanatical gun-haters now in power, dread of what the future may hold is here to stay for a LONG time.

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I’m betting it doesn’t even make the 2020 highlight reel. World’s gone bonkers.

 

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 Which, will perpetuate the shortage.    

Why hoarding is self-perpetuating–not about meeting your reasonable needs, but preparing for “what comes next.”  With two of the most fanatical gun-haters now in power, dread of what the future may hold is here to stay for a LONG time.  

Yes indeed, it is difficult to be optimistic.  Last I heard, California was back to requiring background checks to purchase ammo.  Ordering ammo through the internet and distributors such as Midway, etc. is not an option for Californians and probably won’t be an option for the rest of us soon enough.  Additional taxes, surcharges, etc. are likely.  However, given the prices we are now seeing, the time to have stocked us is behind us.  

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Yes, it is most likely a mistake but look at their other offerings.  Over $100 a box for each.  Glad I don’t have a 30 WCF.Confused  

Glad I can reload.

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I can’t say I feel sorry for anyone who was caught with their pants down and is silly enough to be paying these ridiculous prices. With all the previous “shortages” we have had in the last 15 years, if one was not smart enough to put a few boxes on the shelf when the opportunity was there then pay the piper. Sorry if I sound callous but jeez……… wake up people!  Without ammo you have nothing more than an expensive club.  Just my .02

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I feel sorry for hoarders that think buying cases of ammo is going to protect their gun rights.  All it takes is outlawing owning more than 100 rounds, and you get to turn in a truckload of stupidity.  

A supply chain works if you don’t have a few hoarders panic buying.  As with the toilet paper shortage a few months ago, I don’t cotton to hoarders.  Panic begets panic, and what seemed enough supply (2 weeks worth) becomes insufficient. Then 2 months worth is insufficient, then a decade’s worth…and so on.  Before long, people have cases stacked in their sheds, leaving everyone else hanging out to dry.  

LIMIT what you buy, let the supply chain work.  Or I’ll be buying your unused ammo one day, when you’re gone.  

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LIMIT what you buy, let the supply chain work. 

Of course that’s the rational course of action, but panic inevitably overwhelms it–voluntary limits defeated by fear & greed.  Quotas might appear to be a way of controlling hoarding, except they are easily circumvented; when a seller imposes a quota, the hoarders simply have their family & friends buying for them.  Rather a hopeless situation, but one practical thing, at least, could be done–prohibit the rip-off merchants from selling above MSRP.  On-line auction sites could do this, except the greater the rip-off, the greater their rake-off; anybody expect ethics from auctioneers? 

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I got caught a little short in a primer shortage a few decades back. Was a pretty serious PPC competitor back then so I had to buy a .22 revolver for practice. I don’t know where that revolver is but I know I haven’t run out of primers or powder since. If I don’t get to shooting more someone like AZshot may indeed get a bargain someday as my heirs know next to nothing about reloading.

 

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I saw the Texas DA was getting ready to charge ammo scalpers the other day, in the news. 

During the last ammo panic I saw a few sellers at our local antique market and gun shows that were re-selling their weekly grab from Walmart and other retailers.  These were the guys you’d see in line every day at 6AM to buy ammo (I have NEVER stood in line for an ammo hoarding party…never will).  Every time I’d pass their table I’d pick up the one or two measly boxes of $3 CCI .22s that they’d marked up to $13 or some such, I’d snort, and put it back down.  I wanted them to FEEL my scorn.  A couple times the sellers would get mad, try to argue about “where ELSE ya gonna find ammo?!!” and such.  These guys are the used car salesmen of the era, or worse, the drug dealers.  I won’t buy from them, and hope they choke on their hoard one day.  Yes, I’m all for Capitalism, but not the type that would allow wagon trains of settlers to perish because they couldn’t pay the “toll bridge” fee some enterprising guy set up right before them.  

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Yes, I’m all for Capitalism, but not the type that would allow wagon trains of settlers to perish because they couldn’t pay the “toll bridge” fee some enterprising guy set up right before them.    

This comment caused me to remember one of the classic scenes in my favorite movie of all times… Blazing Saddles.  The Toll Booth set up out in the middle of know where Taggart (Slim Pickens) sent one of his cronies back to town for a bag full of dimes.

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This comment caused me to remember one of the classic scenes in my favorite movie of all times… Blazing Saddles.  The Toll Booth set up out in the middle of know where Taggart (Slim Pickens) sent one of his cronies back to town for a bag full of dimes.

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Bert, Thanks for that link. Blazing Saddles is one of the funniest movies, in my humble opinion, ever made and this scene is one of the best of many.  After an exhausting morning moving snow you made my day! Merry Christmas.

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AW Dave, is it snowin’ there, it’s rainin’ here and don’t have to shovel it but it still sucks   Merry ChristmasSmile

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Dave K. said

Bert H. said

This comment caused me to remember one of the classic scenes in my favorite movie of all times… Blazing Saddles.  The Toll Booth set up out in the middle of know where Taggart (Slim Pickens) sent one of his cronies back to town for a bag full of dimes.

blazing saddles toll booth scene – Bing  

Bert, Thanks for that link. Blazing Saddles is one of the funniest movies, in my humble opinion, ever made and this scene is one of the best of many.  After an exhausting morning moving snow you made my day! Merry Christmas.  

It is my all-time favorite movie, and I watch it at least twice a year. My next favorite movie is Young Frankenstein.

Merry Christmas to you, and try not to move anymore snow than necessary!

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Here in the Socialist State of Kalifornia  we have to put up with the hoarders as well as the anti gunners.  So one man’s definition of hoarding isn’t the same for all.  I saw the laws coming and had learned from the hoarding in the past.  I stocked up but did not anticipate the primer issue as being this bad.   On top of this the Chinese flu has messed up a lot of things.  Out of boredom I bought a paper puncher to have something to do.  I thought 3000 primers were enough for this gun to get me by. I’m not out but I look for primers all the time and have not found many for sale at a reasonable cost.

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I relate to much of what’s been said.  I had a fun memory.  When I was a young deer hunter I was known for having plenty of ammunition on me when out in the woods.  I think I got a few smirks from those older and wiser.  I have a feeling that maybe in a previous life I was in a tight situation where I ran out of ammunition and something pretty bad happened to me.

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I relate to much of what’s been said.  I had a fun memory.  When I was a young deer hunter I was known for having plenty of ammunition on me when out in the woods.  I think I got a few smirks from those older and wiser.  I have a feeling that maybe in a previous life I was in a tight situation where I ran out of ammunition and something pretty bad happened to me.  

Steve, my Dad always had extra ammo in his truck.  I mean ammo to fit any gun he might have at any given time or situation.  He also bought 2 identical shotguns each time he needed a new one.  Loose ammo was in his console.  You never know what you may find.  Doesn’t hurt to be prepared but carrying boxes in the field might just be too much.

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When our county was a shotgun only for deer, we jumped a buck in the marsh and it got hit but it kept going. It was marsh, farm fields and woods. There was I think 4 of us and we kept jumping it and then it would lay down, every time shooting at it. At one point we went to town to buy more slugs and then continued the hunt chasing this deer through the marsh across the fields into the woods and then back into the marsh before we got it. We figured a distance of 5 miles was covered and 68 shots. I was the youngest and had a bolt action 20 ga and the others had pumps all with open sights. After that episode I always stocked up on slugs and I carried at least 25 with me and more in the truck. Finally the county changed to rifle so now I had a 270 but I still had the ammo stock pile mentality. After a few years of shooting deer with a rifle and scope I realized I don’t have to carry all this ammo since the deer goes down with one shot.

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