W.A.C.A. life member, Marlin Collectors Assn. charter and life member, C,S.S.A. member and general gun nut.
Henry,
Very nice!
If you are “shooting” for a Trapper in all of the various barrel lengths, you will need to also find one with a 17″ barrel. Per the survey conducted by the CFM and documented in the ARMAX Vol 5, there was a total of (409) short barreled “Trapper” Carbines that were manufactured that can be lettered (shown in the table below).
Serial range 1 – 353999 | Total Carbines 75,075 | Total “Trapper” Carbines 409 | |
Lengths | Qty. Made | % of Trapper Production | % of Total Production |
14″ | 19 | 4.65% | 0.0253% |
15″ | 272 | 66.50% | 0.3623% |
16″ | 104 | 25.43% | 0.1385% |
17″ | 2 | 0.49% | 0.0027% |
18″ | 12 | 2.93% | 0.0160% |
Total | 409 | 100% | 0.5448% |
In my continuing research survey of the Model 1894s in the 354000 – 2600011 serial range, I have thus far documented another (420) Trapper Carbines, Keep in mind that Winchester discontinued all but the 16″ barrel length as of 1934 (the enactment of the NFA). The table below shows what I have surveyed/verified thus far;
> 353999 | ||
Lengths | Qty. Surveyed | % of Surveyed Qty. |
14″ | 23 | 5.48% |
15″ | 342 | 81.43% |
16″ | 46 | 10.95% |
17″ | 0 | 0.00% |
18″ | 9 | 2.14% |
Total | 420 | 100% |
In total, I can account for (829) Trapper Carbines at this time. I am sure that more of them will be found in the future.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Henry Mero said
Yes Bert, I understand that. You wouldn’t have one kickin’ around You’re not needin’ would Ya’.
I do not… but I do know where (3) of the 18-inch Trappers are located. I have not (yet) encountered any of the ultra rare 17″ Trappers.
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Bert You can relate to the 3 trapper owners that I am in the market, I guess I should have bought the one from Rick afew years back, but I was really into deluxe gund at the time.
W.A.C.A. life member, Marlin Collectors Assn. charter and life member, C,S.S.A. member and general gun nut.
Henry Mero said
Bert You can relate to the 3 trapper owners that I am in the market, I guess I should have bought the one from Rick a few years back, but I was really into deluxe gund at the time.
Hi Henry,
I believe I have the third 1894 18″ trapper Bert is referring to. Manufactured in 1922 and is chambered in 25-35 WCF. It is one of my favorite carbines and the most rare in my collection and not looking to get rid of it anytime soon. I will keep you in mind if I ever do decide to sell.
Don
Bert H. said
Don,I forgot about your 18″ Trapper… the other (3) are all in very near locale to you.
Bert
Hi Bert,
I do know the owner of the 2 18″ trappers that you mentioned, but not the other one you know about. Do you happen to have the caliber breakdown of the 21 that you have surveyed?
Don
Don,
I have the information for all (9) that are outside of the letterable range.
Serial No. | Caliber | Bbl Leng. | SRC | Brl Alloy | Butt Plate | DOM | Additional Information | ATF Ltr. |
490795 | 32 WS | 18″ | Yes | Nickel Steel | Carbine | 3/16/1911 | Sling Eyes | NA |
533625 | 30 WCF | 18″ | Yes | Nickel Steel | Carbine | 12/26/1911 | NA | |
559021 | 25-35 WCF | 18″ | Yes | Nickel Steel | Carbine | 5/27/1912 | NA | |
645796 | 30 WCF | 18″ | Yes | Nickel Steel | Carbine | 1/6/1914 | NA | |
691849 | 30 WCF | 18″ | Yes | Nickel Steel | Carbine | 10/10/1914 | NA | |
884025 | 30 WCF | 18″ | Yes | Nickel Steel | Carbine | 3/31/1919 | NA | |
949121 | 25-35 WCF | 18″ | Yes | Nickel Steel | Carbine | 11/22/1922 | NA | |
969471 | 25-35 WCF | 18″ | Yes | Nickel Steel | Carbine | 8/5/1924 | NA | |
1006541 | 30 WCF | 18″ | Yes | Nickel Steel | Carbine | 9/2/1927 | NA |
The 4th gun is owned by a prominent OAC member (and you know him).
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
deerhunter said
Thanks Bert. Appreciate the stats. Was surprised to see you found 3 of these in 25-35.
I suspect that there are at least a few dozen more 18-inch Trappers out there in the 354000+ serial number range, and the odds are good that at least a few of them are 25-35s. Time will tell…
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Henry
Here are a couple of 18 inch carbines
The first one is the one that Rick H had a couple years ago.
The second one I also bought from Rick at the Cody show. He found it opening morning and put it on his table. He was kind enough to only make a little bit on it and offer it to me. (thank you Rick)
I would gladly loan either one to you for a “family” photo but at this time if I sold one I probably would not be the only guy on the planet with two 18 inch carbines.
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