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Here’s a line of s.r.c.,’s one doesn’t see very often, first time Ive managed to have the 14″, 15″, 16″, 1894 trappers at one time20240202_085628.jpgImage Enlarger20240202_090633.jpgImage Enlarger20240202_090641.jpgImage Enlarger20240202_090702.jpgImage Enlarger20240202_090712.jpgImage Enlarger20240202_090723.jpgImage Enlarger  Now I need a 18″ and a 211/2″, any ideas?

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Henry,

Very nice! Cool

If you are “shooting” for a Trapper in all of the various barrel lengths, you will need to also find one with a 17″ barrel.  Per the survey conducted by the CFM and documented in the ARMAX Vol 5, there was a total of (409) short barreled “Trapper” Carbines that were manufactured that can be lettered (shown in the table below).

Serial range 1 – 353999 Total Carbines 75,075 Total “Trapper” Carbines 409  
Lengths Qty. Made % of Trapper Production % of Total Production
14″ 19 4.65% 0.0253%
15″ 272 66.50% 0.3623%
16″ 104 25.43% 0.1385%
17″ 2 0.49% 0.0027%
18″ 12 2.93% 0.0160%
Total 409 100% 0.5448%

 

In my continuing research survey of the Model 1894s in the 354000 – 2600011 serial range, I have thus far documented another (420) Trapper Carbines,  Keep in mind that Winchester discontinued all but the 16″ barrel length as of 1934 (the enactment of the NFA).  The table below shows what I have surveyed/verified thus far;

> 353999    
Lengths Qty. Surveyed % of Surveyed Qty.
14″ 23 5.48%
15″ 342 81.43%
16″ 46 10.95%
17″ 0 0.00%
18″ 9 2.14%
Total 420 100%

In total, I can account for (829) Trapper Carbines at this time.  I am sure that more of them will be found in the future.

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Yes Bert, I understand that. You wouldn’t have one kickin’ around You’re not needin’ would Ya’.

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Very nice carbines Henry.  Good luck in your search.

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Henry Mero said
Yes Bert, I understand that. You wouldn’t have one kickin’ around You’re not needin’ would Ya’.

  

I do not… but I do know where (3) of the 18-inch Trappers are located.  I have not (yet) encountered any of the ultra rare 17″ Trappers.

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Very nice S.R.C’s, collection Henry. Thanks for sharing.Smile

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Those guns are nice even without considering the barrel lengths!!!

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Bert You can relate to the 3 trapper owners that I am in the market, I guess I should have bought the one from Rick afew years back, but I was really into deluxe gund at the time.

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Oh ya’ I’m going to Florida for a couple weeks so I’ll be off line for a while

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Henry,

The current owner bought two of them (one from Rick) and another at the Cody show recently. I will clue him into this post.

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Bert You can relate to the 3 trapper owners that I am in the market, I guess I should have bought the one from Rick a few years back, but I was really into deluxe gund at the time.

  

Hi Henry,

I believe I have the third 1894 18″ trapper Bert is referring to.  Manufactured in 1922 and is chambered in 25-35 WCF.  It is one of my favorite carbines and the most rare in my collection and not looking to get rid of it anytime soon.  I will keep you in mind if I ever do decide to sell.

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Don,

I forgot about your 18″ Trapper… the other (3) are all in very near locale to you.

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Bert H. said
Don,

I forgot about your 18″ Trapper… the other (3) are all in very near locale to you.

Bert

  

Hi Bert,

I do know the owner of the 2 18″ trappers that you mentioned, but not the other one you know about.  Do you happen to have the caliber breakdown of the 21 that you have surveyed?

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Don,

I have the information for all (9) that are outside of the letterable range.

Serial No. Caliber  Bbl Leng. SRC Brl Alloy Butt Plate DOM Additional Information ATF Ltr.
490795 32 WS 18″ Yes Nickel Steel Carbine 3/16/1911 Sling Eyes NA
533625 30 WCF 18″ Yes Nickel Steel Carbine 12/26/1911   NA
559021 25-35 WCF 18″ Yes Nickel Steel Carbine 5/27/1912   NA
645796 30 WCF 18″ Yes Nickel Steel Carbine 1/6/1914   NA
691849 30 WCF 18″ Yes Nickel Steel Carbine 10/10/1914   NA
884025 30 WCF 18″ Yes Nickel Steel Carbine 3/31/1919   NA
949121 25-35 WCF 18″ Yes Nickel Steel Carbine 11/22/1922   NA
969471 25-35 WCF 18″ Yes Nickel Steel Carbine 8/5/1924   NA
1006541 30 WCF 18″ Yes Nickel Steel Carbine 9/2/1927   NA

The 4th gun is owned by a prominent OAC member (and you know him).

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Thanks Bert.  Appreciate the stats.  Was surprised to see you found 3 of these in 25-35.

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Thanks Bert.  Appreciate the stats.  Was surprised to see you found 3 of these in 25-35.  

I suspect that there are at least a few dozen more 18-inch Trappers out there in the 354000+ serial number range, and the odds are good that at least a few of them are 25-35s.  Time will tell…

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Henry

 Here are a couple of 18 inch carbines

 The first one is the one that Rick H had a couple years ago.

 The second one I also bought from Rick at the Cody show. He found it opening morning and put it on his table. He was kind enough to only make a little bit on it and offer it to me. (thank you Rick)

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 I would gladly loan either one to you for a “family” photo but at this time if I sold one I probably would not be the only guy on the planet with two 18 inch carbines. LaughLaugh

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That is an awesome set of carbines Doug.  Thanks for sharing!

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