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PROPOSED ILLINOIS GUN LAW
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The Illinois State Rifle Association has just published info about proposed legislation that makes any unserialized gun illegal. What becomes of my 2 1930s 22 rifles? I believe they are trying to stop mail order DIY kits. This legislation needs serious consideration as it would make me a law-breaker. Don

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I’ve been worried about some legislature taking the easy way out to address the “Ghost Gun” issue. I wonder if it ever occurred to them there are hundreds of thousands of perfectly legitimate unserialized firearms that are not “ghost guns”. 

 

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TXGunNut said
 I wonder if it ever occurred to them there are hundreds of thousands of perfectly legitimate unserialized firearms that are not “ghost guns”. 

 

Mike  

Oh, yes, of course the gun-haters research such issues thoroughly.  Like Sara Brady, for ex., who devoted her life to promoting anti-gun legislation, but could never quite grasp the difference between full & semi-auto firearms, or distinguish between pistols & revolvers. 

There was a time when NRA could be counted on to fight such legislation, but now that the org is totally preoccupied with saving itself from La Pierre’s mismanagement, it’s a spent force politically.

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The Illinois State Rifle Association has just published info about proposed legislation that makes any unserialized gun illegal. What becomes of my 2 1930s 22 rifles? I believe they are trying to stop mail order DIY kits. This legislation needs serious consideration as it would make me a law-breaker. Don  

It also appears the DOJ will be taking this a step further by having any FFL or gunsmith that takes in such a gun to be required to give it a serial number.  While they are calling out “ghost” or “kit” guns, there is nothing to indicate it would not apply to all guns lacking a SN in the broader sense.   

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/04/11/biden-doj-classifying-gun-parts-firearms-effort-ban-ghost-guns/

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I heard on the news that about 50% of the illegal confiscated guns in California are ghost guns.  California already has a ghost gun law.  Obviously, the law is not deterring the criminals.

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It seems that California has trouble prosecuting any criminal.  The criminal is arrested, sometimes booked and then released.  No criminal, it seems, is held accountable!  And the politicians are dumbfounded by the crime rate?  Crime pays and honest people suffer! They want to punish the honest, legal gun owner and ignore the criminal.  Just my view on the matter.  RDB

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1892takedown said

It also appears the DOJ will be taking this a step further by having any FFL or gunsmith that takes in such a gun to be required to give it a serial number.  While they are calling out “ghost” or “kit” guns, there is nothing to indicate it would not apply to all guns lacking a SN in the broader sense.   

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/04/11/biden-doj-classifying-gun-parts-firearms-effort-ban-ghost-guns/  

It will be interesting how they define, “such a gun.”  Might be FFL’s/gunsmiths will refuse to take them in?  What year did Canada require all modern firearms have a number on them?  

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It seems that California has trouble prosecuting any criminal.  The criminal is arrested, sometimes booked and then released.  No criminal, it seems, is held accountable! RDB  

NYS’s “no bail” law passed 2 yrs ago has caused such a crime wave, that the state is considering repealing it.  Among the ultra-libs fighting any reform is Mark Zuckerberg; think about that the next time you use FB–which I NEVER have or will.

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A good outline of the National Firearms Act and the Gun Control Act and how it applies to vintage weapons (e.g. vintage guns that never had serial numbers):

https://www.pennlago.com/are-firearms-without-serial-numbers-illegal/#:~:text=In%201968%2C%20the%20Gun%20Control,to%20bear%20a%20serial%20number.

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steve004 said
A good outline of the National Firearms Act and the Gun Control Act and how it applies to vintage weapons (e.g. vintage guns that never had serial numbers):

https://www.pennlago.com/are-firearms-without-serial-numbers-illegal/#:~:text=In%201968%2C%20the%20Gun%20Control,to%20bear%20a%20serial%20number.  

In short, if you have any un-numbered gun made before ’68, don’t sweat it. 

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clarence said

In short, if you have any un-numbered gun made before ’68, don’t sweat it.   

Well… as long as they never had a number… you should be ok.  Unless they change it.

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steve004 said

It will be interesting how they define, “such a gun.”  Might be FFL’s/gunsmiths will refuse to take them in?  What year did Canada require all modern firearms have a number on them?    

I recall when the ill fated $4Billion boondoggle Long Gun Registry came in being I was required to put a stick with a serial number sent to me by the (Chief Firearms Officer or RCMP?) on the barrel of an old “Zulu”1871 French 11mm Gras converted to 12 gauge shotgun that had no serial number. I believe that was in 1995.

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