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I recently bought some old 35 WCF ammo and it says non mercuric on the box , may sound like a stupid question to some of you but does that mean non corrosive primers and about how old would these boxes date to ? It does say on the blue box that the ammo will not cause rust or putting to the rifle so I assume that’s what non mercuric means ?Screenshot_20240908-2039312.pngImage EnlargerScreenshot_20240908-2039472.pngImage Enlarger

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Chris Sterling said It does say on the blue box that the ammo will not cause rust or putting to the rifle so I assume that’s what non mercuric means
  

No, but that’s what “Stainless,” Win’s term for non-corrosive, means.  Equivalent to Rem’s “Kleenbore.”  Non-mecuric & non-corrosive were not synonyms. 

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Chris Sterling said It does say on the blue box that the ammo will not cause rust or putting to the rifle so I assume that’s what non mercuric means

  

No, but that’s what “Stainless,” Win’s term for non-corrosive, means.  Equivalent to Rem’s “Kleenbore.”  Non-mecuric & non-corrosive were not synonyms. 

  

Good to know , thank you !

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I would say the blue box is late 20s or early 30s and the other box is late 30s or early 40s. Non-corrosive priming came out in the late 20s by Winchester and Remington. Very nice !

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I would say the blue box is late 20s or early 30s and the other box is late 30s or early 40s. Non-corrosive priming came out in the late 20s by Winchester and Remington. Very nice !

  

Thank you , I thought they were pretty old , l assume they are original and not reloaded but can’t say for sure .

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That’s an easy fix,Put pictures of the  cartridges and head stamp and someone here will let you know if you have the real McCoy!

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That’s an easy fix,Put pictures of the  cartridges and head stamp and someone here will let you know if you have the real McCoy!

  

I will do that thanks , I haven’t received the ammo yet , it’s on the way , I should get it mid week according to tracking .  Hear are a couple pictures they had when I bought it . They aren’t real clear but it’s all I have right now .Screenshot_20240908-2040053.pngImage EnlargerScreenshot_20240914-1754012.pngImage EnlargerScreenshot_20240914-1754172.pngImage EnlargerScreenshot_20240914-1754512.pngImage Enlarger

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Chris Sterling said
I recently bought some old 35 WCF ammo and it says non mercuric on the box , may sound like a stupid question to some of you but does that mean non corrosive primers and about how old would these boxes date to ? It does say on the blue box that the ammo will not cause rust or putting to the rifle so I assume that’s what non mercuric means ?Screenshot_20240908-2039312.pngImage EnlargerScreenshot_20240908-2039472.pngImage Enlarger

  

These appear to be factory loads.  I agree with Roundsworth about the age of the ammo.  They are probably shootable but are somewhat collectable.

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Chris Sterling said

I recently bought some old 35 WCF ammo and it says non mercuric on the box , may sound like a stupid question to some of you but does that mean non corrosive primers and about how old would these boxes date to ? It does say on the blue box that the ammo will not cause rust or putting to the rifle so I assume that’s what non mercuric means ?Screenshot_20240908-2039312.pngImage EnlargerScreenshot_20240908-2039472.pngImage Enlarger

  

These appear to be factory loads.  I agree with Roundsworth about the age of the ammo.  They are probably shootable but are somewhat collectable.

  

Thanks , maybe I’ll just hold on to them , I have some new brass from Quality cartridge I can use to shoot and one box coming is empty brass I can use to reload .

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I have a Winchester ‘94 in a 32-40 cal. Does anyone have information on how best to go about searching for this ammo? I know, I know that’s probably the million dollar question, but, I’m wondering where to even start looking for it. Any suggestions?

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I have a Winchester ‘94 in a 32-40 cal. Does anyone have information on how best to go about searching for this ammo? I know, I know that’s probably the million dollar question, but, I’m wondering where to even start looking for it. Any suggestions?

  

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Ammoseek.com is your friend – https://ammoseek.com/ammo/32-40-winchester

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JWA,

Many thanks for such an immediate reply! I guess the real question in my mind is what to expect to find and what specifically should I be looking for? Was the original Winchester ammunition the 32-40 Ballard, or 32-40 wcf, or does it matter? I believe that the ‘94 in my possession was made in 1895; however, I’m waiting for the CFM paperwork to arrive. I don’t know if the manufacture year even makes a difference.

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JWA,

Many thanks for such an immediate reply! I guess the real question in my mind is what to expect to find and what specifically should I be looking for? Was the original Winchester ammunition the 32-40 Ballard, or 32-40 wcf, or does it matter? I believe that the ‘94 in my possession was made in 1895; however, I’m waiting for the CFM paperwork to arrive. I don’t know if the manufacture year even makes a difference.

Thank you,

Gun Greenhorn!

  

Yes, .32-40 Ballard is the same as .32-40 Winchester.  If you are wanting to plink or hunt I would use either modern ammo or reloads as the older ammo is somewhat collectible and potentially not as reliable depending upon how it was stored.  Ammoseek will list all the available calibers they can find currently for sale online with a link.  If you are planning on shooting reloads, either load your own or purchase them from a professional ammo remanufacturer.  

And, of course, save your spent brass!

You can use the “Resources” tab above, then click on “When was my Winchester made”, select “1894” and plug in your serial number for the actual year it was made (serial number applied).

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Ventura munitions sells 32-40 ammo with new brass with correct head stamp. They use a 180 grain cast bullet at about 1400 fps. Work good in my 1894. About $60 per box shipped.

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Guns International has an ammo section. Never know what you will find.  

https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/parts-ammo-accessories/ammo-american-collectible-.c860_p1_o6.cfm

Original ammo was Marlin/Ballard.  The earliest Winchester boxes list it as such.  This is a pre 1894 box.

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Hallworks said
I have a Winchester ‘94 in a 32-40 cal. Does anyone have information on how best to go about searching for this ammo? I know, I know that’s probably the million dollar question, but, I’m wondering where to even start looking for it. Any suggestions?

  

I found that old 35 WCF ammo on GunBroker .

You might want to just search the Internet for that caliber ammo also , good luck !

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